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what is the colour of nothing?


  • kj44
    Feb 24 9:30 PM 2007
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    black is created ny the absence of light but surely black isnt nothing because you can see it?

  • Kazrith
    February 25, 2007

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    or can you see it....



    techniquely black is what you see when the cells in the back of your eyes are not stimulated by visible EM waves.
    and when i say see, i mean that it is what your mind creates.

  • kj44
    February 25, 2007

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    but i can tell you something is black so if black is the colour of nothing then that thing cant exist

    • Kazrith
      February 26, 2007

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      not true. black is mearly the absense of something that is not hot enough to emit light that our eyes can see.

      space dust appears black when we look at it from earth, it exists, its just so cold and dense that we cannot preceive that it is there.

  • Forsaken Anima
    February 26, 2007

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    But am I wrong in assuming that we are speaking of a color? Have neither of you ever mixed colors in paint or crayon. If you mix all the colors together then it turns black. So is black not a color or simply the absence of light being able to pass through a substance?

    • Kazrith
      February 26, 2007

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      astronomy corner

      colour is not a paste you can squeeze out of a tube. that is pigment. colour is merely different wavelengths of light. leaves are green because of a pigment in the leaves that absorbs all other colours.
      black is something that absorbs all colours. so if you mix all your pigments together, you have a multitude of pigments that absorbs all wavelengths and the ones that they are meant to reflect, are absorbed by the other pigments.

  • kj44
    February 26, 2007

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    heres wat im trying to get at, say you were in a vaccum that stretched out for infinity all around you so there was no particles for light to be absorbed or reflected by, what would you see?

    • Kazrith
      February 26, 2007

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      scientific fact: you would see tourqoise

  • kj44
    February 26, 2007

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    why?

    • Kazrith
      February 26, 2007

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      isnt that the never ending question... lol

      because, i would believe our eyes are stimulated the most by yellow-green light, and since there are alot of blu-ish objects in space, we would see a greenishblue colour.

      i saw this on the discovery channel once.

  • kj44
    February 26, 2007

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    so if colour is difrent wavelengths of light then why would you see turquiose?

    • Kazrith
      February 26, 2007

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      because there are more turquiose wavelenths being emitted from space.

  • kj44
    February 26, 2007

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    but there is no space there is nothing

    • Kazrith
      February 26, 2007

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      is this getting into, do we really exist? if there is no space, there is no nothign. sure. but there is space and there is something.

  • kj44
    February 27, 2007

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    no but im talking about a vaccum and in a proper vaccum there would be absolutely nothing so what would its colour be?

    • Kazrith
      February 28, 2007

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      not that this has anything to do with the original questio but heck. well if there is NOTHING, then there is nothing to produce radiation, which means that there wouldnt be any colour at all.

  • Doom Pickels
    March 21, 2007

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    There is no color of nothing

    In order to be color, the color has to "be". There can no be a color without it "being". A color must exsist. or it fails to be classified as a color. But if there is a color of "nothing" then it fails to be anything. It's like what a blind person "sees". BLind people see NOTHING. they can't even see black. They just fail to see any color. you can ask them. Just nothing. Try this. Close one eye. Out of one eye, you don't see black, you just cease to see. it is absolutely nothing. A highly philisophical idea =P

    • TeChNoWC
      March 22, 2007

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      Close both eyes though and you see black, whether this is because there is still a minimal amount of light filtering through or not, it still defeats the purpose of your argument, or the evidence thereof.

  • Doom Pickels
    March 23, 2007

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    I didn't say close both eyes. I said close one. closing one eye is the best representation i can give you. What happens is one of your eyes stops sending signals to your brain because no more light is touching it. This is the closest I could get to help you understand that there is no such thing as "no color". Because it litterally can't exsist. It's an oxymoron to say "no color".But there is no real color of nothing. Because color is something in itself. You need something in order for there to be a color. not even the color black is an accurate representation of "no color". because black itself is a color. And color is something, thus can't be nothing. It's very hard to explain.

    • Kazrith
      March 24, 2007

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      physically, black is not a colour. why? because Black refers to the absence of visible radiation - thus no stimulus of the nerve cells in your eyes, thus no psychological stimulus, thus no colour.

      course if you turn that closed towards the sun, you see red....
      how is it an oxymoron to say no colour? an oxymoron is the combination of 2 contradictory words -(the fence was so cold, it burned). no colour do not contradict each other.

    • TeChNoWC
      August 1, 2007

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      Ever 'experienced' non-consciousness?

  • Ojae
    March 28, 2007

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    The color of nothing does not exist because "nothing" does not exist. If you show me what you call "nothing" you are merely showing me an absence of anything at all.

  • Auxiliar
    August 1, 2007

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    color is the result of the photoelectric effect. this means that all color originates from the absorption of the subject of one's visual attention of quanta of light and reflecting light of certain wavelengths thereafter. If "nothing" lacks matter, then it has no color; the closest thing to an assertion that one may say is that nothing is the color of everything around it.

    • Weydon
      August 2, 2007

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      Space is nothing and it is black. Black isn't really a color. It's no colors.
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