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The pursuit of such presumes one is not happy. Therefore such a pursuit perpetuates this emotional state. And that is what it is, an emotion. I have heard it said that an ultimate goal is to be happy right up to death. This is easily accomplished through an overdose of heroin where both these states are achieved. Heroin is a chemical and so is emotion. Puruits of any kind are a product of discontent.
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I live not by the pursuit of happiness, but by the pursuit of stability and fideism, in the small chance that my revelation is correct and I go to heaven. Otherwise existence is meaningless and I would gladly end all instances of pursuit, coming to your so called absolute consciousness state by preceding to be nothing (dead).
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the pursuit of happyness
one can be happy and still be able to pursue happiness.
eg.
you have one good friend. but wouldnt two good friends be better?
you and your wife love eachother, but to keep it that way, you have to work at it.
your son is happy, just not at school due to a bully. do you not pursue his happiness?
we can never gain a complete state of happiness, but when we pursue happiness, we get to feel it even if it isjust for a few seconds. -
Happiness is happiness. Pursuits are pursuits. Why the human obsession with happiness is beyond me. Obsession is just that, obsession.
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Why should one pursue "happiness" when achieving it is so slim? Theres really no point in attempting to be happy because the human mindset of happiness is usually vastly different from whatever we end up experiencing.
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this is sad in the way that clown car collisions are sad. it's very, 'well, what's the point of it all. put on that leonard coehn album....' .
happiness requires more than hope and making yourself small in the world. it's hard work and no one will fuck with you if you've done it correctly. happiness is living. period. funny how that's what we do naturally on a physiological level, when it seems that mentally we are attempting to complicate its ease. -
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No one will mess with your happiness? Life messes with happiness.Like it or not its like standing on the American Gladiator platform and having one of them knock you down. It happens. Theres always another level of happiness that can be reached. Sometimes its not worth trying when your already on a decent level.
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Contentment is far better a word. Happiness can be a fleeting emotion but to be content brings a solid base for proceeding through life with the comfort and security to live a life compatable with others around you.
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I agree. And contentment is hardly something one pursues. For me a feeling of contentment arises when i dont feel the need to pursue anything. It is like you have it all (like a good cup of coffee).
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And then if you cant find contentment? Some people dont find that ever either.
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Some just like the happiness of pursuit.
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particular addiction. They are welcome to it. People initially take hard drugs because it induces euphoria. In other words they "like" this "happy" state. Addictions are addictions. Pursuit induces a chemical reaction.
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Its like running around in a circle though. You may never find it. You might not be aware when you find it until its gone and then your gonna be depressed. It all seems pointless.
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You have to know what it is in order to recognise it when you find it, but if you already know what it is then you have already found it. So you are right, the looking for it is pointless. Just exist now in whatever emotional state one is in. Then the pain of it is absorbed by your willing body. If the brain was not trying to escape all the time it would let the body do what it is supposed to do, absorb (digests, takes the good bits out and excretes the rest. Food as well as emotional states. Both are energy).
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But if you dont know what it is when you have it and then its gone, never will you be "happy/content" like that again. You will compare every moment of your life back to that time when you were happy, if its possible.
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If you don't know what it is then you can't be missing it because you don't know what it is you are missing. And anyway, it's just an emotion. Emotions just come and go.
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I meant if you had it and didnt know and then lost it and was like wow I was happy or something like that. Emotions suck but are important I suppose.
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Yeah, but you are not your emotions. Emotions are just phenomena.
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But they effect everything you do. Without them we'd be even more like mindless drones.
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I just said you aren't your emotions.
I didn't say we should ditch them. Anyway, how can you know how mindless you would be without them? Afterall, you did say that they effect EVERYTHING you do, so you are claiming to know something that you don't. As we CAN'T ditch them, we can observe them. Emotions are brain/chemical activity and we aren't our brains. If you THINK you are your brain THAT is because the brains function is to THINK. And the brain will think whatever it likes. Observe the brain with it's thoughts. The brain is phenomena and so is a cloud phenomena. -
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Emotions effect our day to day lives whether we realize it or not. Just because you observe something doesnt make it any easier to understand.
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Have you tried it? It is the only way TO understand. If you aren't observing it you are BEING it. If you don't observe you have nothing observable that you CAN understand. You talk of "OUR". How about saying "MY"? As in "emotions effect my day to day life". Its called ownership.
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I observe my emotions but that doesnt mean I am any closer to understanding them. In fact I think it confuses me more. I cant figure them out but that doesnt mean I dont need them.
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goodness
speaking for yourself.
happiness and contentment are not the same. at all.
definition time!!!!:
content 2
Adjective
1. satisfied with things as they are
2. willing to accept a situation or a proposed course of action
Verb
to satisfy (oneself or another person)
Noun
peace of mind [Latin contentus contented, having restrained desires]
contentment n
hap·py (hp)
adj. hap·pi·er, hap·pi·est
1. Characterized by good luck; fortunate.
2. Enjoying, showing, or marked by pleasure, satisfaction, or joy.
3. Being especially well-adapted; felicitous: a happy turn of phrase.
4. Cheerful; willing: happy to help.
5.
a. Characterized by a spontaneous or obsessive inclination to use something. Often used in combination: trigger-happy.
b. Enthusiastic about or involved with to a disproportionate degree. Often used in combination: money-happy; clothes-happy.
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yea!!! a fellow travler!
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That's why I can't get lost. Everyone keeps telling me where to go.
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by simply pursuing happiness as hard as you can brings contentment. and that is all you really need.
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First you have to realise what will bring true happiness. This is not always easy to realise. Contentment comes from realising how simply Happiness and Joy are available to us.
Life gives us hard times, but even through the worst there can be contentment with understanding.
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Bliss is the very nature of the soul. But we do not experience bliss in our worldly life, we experience or rather we try to search for happiness in external sources. Happiness is a much lower form of bliss. "God is blissful in nature" We have been created to experience this bliss. Just as one cannot explain the sweetness of sugar in words, the same way it is not possible to explain the nature of bliss in words.
But there is a way to experience happiness in this life ------- it is possible through regular spiritual practice and by establishing a connection with God. Please see http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spiritualresearch/happiness/ -
i like this forum
i like this logic , it is mind provoking ,
regarding the pursuit of hapiness ... there is no hapiness nor sadness ...the natural state is alive and seeking more life , sad is when live is restrained , happy is the temporary moment when live is made better ...
so , yes chemically iduced state of hapiness is good only if it can last till the end .. -
I am happy. i choose to be so.
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yea!!!!!
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what's really strange and upsetting is that I actually know some people who name the pursuit of happiness as the act of buying material possessions. Since when could we buy happiness? And if happiness can be bought than therefore no such pursuit exist. Right? -
Everyone is pursuing happiness in his or her path to a happy life, but I prefer euphoria.
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