I believe that suicide for an unselfish cause is acceptable. For example, the monks in Vietnam sometimes burned themselves to death (committed harakiri) as a symbol of their defiance to the war. In another example, suicide does occur in nature. When you get old and wrinkly, you become so because the cells in your body with damaged DNA commit suicide to save the rest of your body from such disasterous mutant DNA from spreading. So in these senses, suicide is not unnatural, but only when you do it for a cause other than ending your pain or etc etc.

Finally, I am also firmly against 'fake suicide-committers.' These people are classified psychologically as people who crave attention and wish for others to realize the importance of their existence through attempting to die. They then leave the saving up to someone else as they try less-effective forms of suicide (cutting, being the biggest example). My philosophy is that if one has thoughts of suicide, one should get help as quickly as possible. But, if one is found in a situation where one MUST commit suicide (for some reason), then one should not be a pussy about it. Do it right or don't do it at all. And if you find that you're too afraid to do it right, then you should just suck it up and keep on living, because you obviously don't want to die then.

Brave? Running away from life because it is too painful is brave? There is no bravery in taking ones life. Living is hard, dying is easy. No one should ever support anyone in chosing suicide, if anything you should try to help them to want to live. There is no honor, bravery, pride, or happiness in killing yourself.

I think suicide is either a cry for help or a desperate attempt to rid yourself of pain and misery. I've known a few people who have killed themselves and all I can think is, why would you leave your loved ones behind, people who depend on you. That is what makes suicide selfish, the fact that you are bailing on those around you. Let me explain. Since I was born I grew up next door to this woman who was always "crazy", when we were little we just thought she was this nutbag woman who only wanted us to die. When I got older I realized that she was just a miserable, depressed, hopeless, young woman. She had quite a few kids too, young ones and older ones. Just 5 months ago or so she killed herself and left all her kids behind. She didn't say goodbye or even leave a note. That makes her selfish, that makes the act selfish, and that just shows you how suicide doesn't solve anything. It may end your pain but it brings a whole new world of pain to those around you. I know people will claim that they just can't take the pain of their lives or that they're depressed, and I know what you are talking about, believe me but nothing is worth killing yourself over. Life is too precious a gift to waste, I know, cliche, but its true. I don't know if anyone has seen Heartbreak Ridge but there was this one scene where this soldier screwed up and his asshole for a commanding officer made him run laps around the other marching soldiers and the poor kid just fell over in exhaustion and Clint Eastwood walks over and kneels down next to him and says, "Never give the prick the satisfaction." and the soldier starts running again with a renewed sense of purpose. Now that always stuck with me because I know that if I were to ever kill myself, all those miserable fucks out there who thrive off others' misery would take some satisfaction out of that and I won't allow that.

No such thing as a waste of life, so killing yourself isn't wasting your life? ________________________________________________ No one ever said they should be forced to live when they don't want to, the whole arguement is based on whether it is selfish or not, not whether you should be forced to live. If you want to kill yourself, go ahead but when someone close to you kills themself you will realize what a waste it is. It solves nothing, you are just gone, dead. You come to hate suicide when it hits home. I will never argue for the side of suicide, it's just not worth it.

Suicide is probably the lowest point of my life. I've tried to kill myself before, and in the times that I've looked back on it in retrospect, I can't believe that things were ever that far out of my control. Suicidal people are in a diluted state of mind. Driven there by some outside cause, they tend to believe that there is no way out. Wrong. No matter how hard life is, there is always help, and in my case, it was in a pretty unusual place. I was literally seconds away from killing myself when a kid from school, who eventually became my best friend, called me on the phone to see if I wanted to play a game of basketball.

I guess I could say, that as a survivor, the pain never really goes away. I can't recall a time or situation when I've ever felt that alone in my life. I felt like I was the only one in the world who didn't get "it". And it seemed like the harder I tried to find myself, the farther from myself I became.

And I can sit before you all now and say that I'm thankful that I never did pull the trigger.

There is always hope.

Of course suicide is selfish you geniuses, that is why it is called "Su-icide" as the latin root word would suggest! By definition, suicide does not merely mean killing yourself, it means to kill one's self by one's own accord, for one's own reasons. So yes, of course it is selfish, but who says being selfish is bad? Especially speaking from the standpoint of someone who wants to kill themselves. Obviously, one who truly desires to end there own life has been cast out by others and society, therefore why the hell should they be concerned with selfishness. In fact, you might say that is was the selfishness of others that brought the individual to such dire straits. One who has reached the brink of suicide, has arrived at this notion for a particular reason or set of reasons based on external factors, usually social. Someone who wants to commit suicide is doing so because they do not have a stake in the social norms that others do, hence a term like selfishness cannot be applied to the debate on suicide. The terms are incompatible.

Suicide is a great honor. When a human decides that they are no longer useful to society, or are in to much pain, they have the right to decide to respectfully bow out of life. If we are working at a job we hate, we can quit that. If we are living somewhere we don’t like, we can quit that. If we do anything we don’t like, we can quit doing that. Everyone should have the right to suicide and the support of others if they choose to do it. It should be an open topic and no longer taboo, those who choose this path are extremely brave as they are taking a path rarely chosen.

Yeah people who kill them selves are being selfish (unless it's like to save someone elses life.) but I think people who are ready to commite suicide could care less if it's selfish or not.

Its bad but its not selfish sure it goes against everything by taking your own life but if you cant cope than isnt it selfish for those you love to force you to be here, if you asked me thats the ultimate torture keeping someone you love here even though they dont want to be here

i think people who kill themselves have a lot of courage to be able to go through with it, but are so fucking scared of life that they cant stand it. in a big way, they're running from life. life is suppose to be hard, get over it and enjoy what you can. sometimes i think i could do it, just let it all go, but truthfully, i'd have the courage to do it, but not the fear. there is to much beauty in the world. even were your not looking. what i always remember is that you are never alone, and running is never the amswer

some people believe people do not have the right to take our own life, for reasons such as religion, ignorance, or simply because this is what the feel. Some people believe someone with suicidal thoughts should hold on as there is many good things in life if you over come the bad. But what when a person has had too much misery,pain that they can no longer see the light, & darkness had taken over thier souls completly. We really cant say how that person is feeling only by what we have been told so we cannot judge them for being weak. The person who is commiting suicide may not feel selfish but the loss of their life will cause pain to people who love them, no matter if the person who loved them knew that they were going through terrible pain it wil stil be a very hard thing to cope with, but then is it selfish to mourn over a suicide...we cannot help our emotions and the way we feel if we really feel it, so if someone wanted to end the life which they have grown sick of living is it then selfish? Selfishness creates opinion and therefore will be debatable

In my opinion suicide may be considered if the suicidal person has no dependents; that is, ne1 who relies on their life or the fact that they're alive. If the suicidal has no dependents then it's their choice to make, since the effect on others will be minimal. But if they have dependents, they should not even consider suicide because of the dangerous reprocussions that their decision may have. ex. a father committing suicide and leaving behind a wife (with no stable income) or a child. you get my point. of course, if it was one of your family members who didn't have any dependents i guess we would all see it differently, but from a completely objective point of view, i think that's as logical as it gets. (feel free to comment i want 2 c what u think of my opinion)

Alright, I have to say that suicide is selfish. I agree that wanting someone to live through the pain can be selfish as well, but really it's still selfish of you to leave them. If there's only one apple, someone should take it and that someone will be acting selfishly. In most cases it isn't only selfish, but kind of wussy. You need to suffer to grow, it's unintelligent to avoid pain. I think if you are permanently disabled, then suicide is agreat option, and the fact that you are saving people from having to deal with you, which almost makes up for the loved ones you hurt... And thepopulation is far too large as it is, so we shouldn't try too hard to keep people areound in the first place. So suicide is a GREAT, but selfish and pansy thing to do.

i don'y understand how anyone could say that it is selfish. I have had a few people in my family commit suicide and i understand why. They had kids that were young that they left behind but this way it was better for them and the kids. They wouldnt have been able to give their kids a good life. Their life was crap, it was too far gone to fix, and if i were them i would have done the same thing. Suicide is NOT selfish. The people who say that it is must not understand. Life is just pointless and nothing can help them but death.