how can anyone logically interperate todays bible exactly as it was thousands of years ago?
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it is greatly flawed...60% Voted for by Crazyhead, Sssid, Ominee Haynes.
have you ever played telephone?
you know, the childs game where you tell the person next to you something, and it ends up completely different...
imagine a game of telephone streched over 1500-ish years, wouldn't some of the information be altered?
there is a 12 year period where christians claim that there is no written information on jesus... which is purely and simply a lie... the catholic church REMOVED those 12 years out of the bible... they took it out because jesus got married and was living the "good" jewish life... which to the catholics, made him impure...
now they certainly didn't want their messiah to be impure, so they "lost" those pages...
then theres the issue of translation... first it was greek, then it passed through multiple other languages befor going to old-english, then modern english, then todays english...
and i cant help but think that if each of the translators, and writers of the bible had made only one mistake each, would that not give the bible a hellofa lot of typos, and mis-interperitations?
so how is it that christians can wholely interperate the bible as pure?
as far as i know christians dont have a super-power that lets them translate and copy something ver-batem..
in fact, if anything, they are gifted with the ability to alter and ignor logic and fact in the persuit of conversion...
just a little somthing for you christians to wrap your head around...
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Allegory but not worthlessVoted for by holloweyed.
At this point, most Bible interpretations are largely allegorical and much much more of an ethical manual than a literal book. You don't read Little Red Riding Hood and believe that it's real. And, although Jesus did really exist, most normally people probably wouldn't believe that Jesus really performed all those flashy miracles. But just because we can't take it literally doesn't mean that it's not a good guide for ethical living.
If you believe that killing, stealing, and adultery is wrong, then I suppose you could say that this book is for you. Just like how you read fables and get a lesson out of it (Turtle and Hare for example), it doesn't mean that the story really happened. But it also doesn't mean that the book doesn't have value. I'm sure that anyone who really does think that killing random people is good, or taking other people's things is acceptable, or disrespecting your parents is perfectly fine and healthy probably should be either kept under heavy watch or be removed from society to some extent just to ensure the safety of those around him or her. Christianity is much more a way of life than supernatural beliefs, but more importantly, it is the belief that such a way of living is a good way of living.
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bible is extremely fundamental part.Voted for by susheel narayan.
I do agree the fact that it has been misinterpreted. Even then, i just want to make one point. Just look at the commandment "thou shall not kill" you can easily make out that this and other commandments were preached to people who were extremely uncivilized.
And one more important point is that jesus has clearly said that, there are a lot more which he would want to preach, but the people are not prepared for that.
In this context, i would like to remind that, the lot more philosophy of life which jesus had talked about was already available in the part of southeast asia, which is presently called India. And one interesting fact i want to make out is that the 12 year absence of jesus was his presence in this part of the earth.
I had definetely love to give data on this matter if anybody needs it.




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September 28, 2005
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It's probably true that the bible is not quite in the original format, and wording that it once was. However, that doesn't make the stories in it any less valid. For instance in the game telephone there is 1 person whispering to another person, going to another person, etc. However, if the first person simply declared to all the other people in the room what it was he was saying, there would be no misinterpretation, and it could be assumed that even after some time had passed, if the message had been important enough, then the majority of the details would remain intact. That is what happened with the Bible. Also it might be true that Jesus was married for a time and that there was written evidence of that, however, I have never seen or heard of any such evidence and also, whether he was at any point married or not, that is -not- the point of the bible. The point of the bible is the fall of man, the sacrifice of Jesus and the redemption that is now offered to man because of that, as well as an ethical guide to living life, and a studyguide in learning about the nature of God, and despite any alterations, the nature of God has endured from the ancient times since before the Jews ever became enslaved in Egypt and then were set free by Moses all the way to the present day. Also, since the Bible is the inspired word of God, it stands to reason that God would not allow it to be changed enough for the message or the meaning to be warped into something completely unrecognizable from its original form. This is of course assuming that someone believes in God, otherwise my entire argument is invalid and doesn't matter because it can be shrugged off so easily by simply denying God's existence.Crazyhead
September 29, 2005
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even if god exists wouldn't the bible be out of his control after it was first written? after all our free will has gone against his plans many times throughout history... adam and eve ate the apple... the crusades happend... the 90's happend (little humor there)... if the catholic church took 12 YEARS of christs life out of the bible, i can only imagine what other things they changed.... and as far as the telephone thing goes- part of the message is to tell other people... so all the people go home and tell everyone they know about what was said... they forget one part or mis-interperate one thing, then the whole message gets mesed up... so the the secod group of people tell everyone they know, messing up details that had already been slightly skewed... and so-on... no matter what, the bible cannot be wholely interperated as God-written... it can only be God-influenced, God-inspired or something to that effect...October 4, 2005
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God?
You believe in God? In God as what? All powerfull etc. I give you the paradox of the stone.Crazyhead
October 5, 2005
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i dont believe in god... i'm what most call a "nihilist"... except unlike most nihilists i believe that "god," or whatever you'd like to call him/her/it/them, is purely what you make of it... if you believe it, then, to you, it is true...October 21, 2005
Crazyhead
October 22, 2005
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proof
um.... because those 12-ish years have been found... i've read them myself... you could probly find it in a local library...October 24, 2005
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Crazyhead
November 6, 2005
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well whether those 12 documented years are "real" or not is as open to interperitation as the bible... there is no proof, so if you choose to not believe that those documents are not valid, than i cannot really argue because neither of us were actually there... just as if i choose to say that, in my opinion, the bible is not valid, you cant really argue, because, once again, neither of us were there...November 20, 2005
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