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Abortion - Wrong Almost All The Way Around

I have always the viewpoint that abortion is ok. I have seen it as a womans choice and that it is hers to be made.
My opinion totally changed as i wanted to see what really happens in a abortion. It was pretty sick what i saw. There was a gallery literally showing dead babies, covered with blood in bins and just flung on tables, some even had body parts detatched.
After seeing these images i believe there should be a cut off stage where women cannot have abortions unless in extreme situations like rape. To me these were babies. As if they had been born, and to think they had actually been killed.
The stage of when abort should only be allowed in the very early stages of development as im afraid that now i kind of see it as murder.
Its weird how my viewpoint can change in a matter of minutes because of an abortion gallery

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  • Abortion...Wrong, wrong, wrong.

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about a woman's "choice" in the matter of abortion. The woman should not HAVE a choice! She had a choice to begin with! If she didn't want to get herself pregnant, she shouldn't have had sex! And if she did have sex, she should've used RELIABLE protection! In these two instances, it is completely and entirely the woman's fault that she is in the predicament she is in. There is a little thing called "abstinence" that all women should learn to practice if they want to avoid having a baby at the wrong time. The woman is responsible for getting herself pregnant, and therefore should be responsible enough to have the baby. If the baby is still unwanted at end-of-term, adoption is the best and most frequently used option. The baby can at least grow up in a home where he/she is loved and well-cared for, instead of being killed painfully. (and yes, abortions are painful to the baby. Look up the facts.)

    I understand that women who are victims of rape, incest, or molestation often do not want reminders of the event. A baby, of course, would be a gigantic reminder. But keep this in mind: It's NOT the BABY'S fault. The baby should not be murdered because of the actions of their father. Adoption, in this case, is also a reasonable alternative.

    Being as I am pro-life, I would under NO circumstances kill my baby, unless the pregnancy would result in both my death and the death of the baby. This, however, is an inarguable and unreasonable subject. I would be the only one, (probably) to be "dumb" enough to risk my life to give birth to my baby. If a woman is in the position in which it is 100% positive that she or the baby will die, abortion is, unfortunately, the only answer. It would be unreasonable to lose both the life of the mother and baby when one of the lives can be saved. This, puts Abortion wrong ALMOST all the way around...

    10%  Voted for by RimedEmbrace, faithfullydedicated, Makessenseright, ctr4life, Inan.
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  • totally wrong

    if the girl wants to go and open her legs and end up pregnat she should accept that and ahve the baby. she could give it up for adoptaion if she didnt want it but abortion is like murder and should be against the law

    10%  Voted for by lucky-charm12, looking4realtruth, mimi90, Inan, XxMidnightFairyxX.
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  • abortion = WRONG, adoption = GOOD

    OK I am saying this as a child whose mother had a choice... its WRONG on all accounts... my mom had me when she was 15, everyone was pushing her to get an abortion and I am so glad she didn't.... seriously though think about the traumatic effects this could potentially have on the mother.... she KILLED her kid... and when she actually decides she wants to have kids she'll have to live with that memory... I think its murder, and also a problem that can be stopped EASILY by ADOPTION! adoption is such a better option, no one's hurt, except maybe emotionally, but abortion is emotional too so thats really not a good arguement!

    10%  Voted for by BreatheForMe, lucky-charm12, Makessenseright, mimi90, Inan.
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    "This, puts Abortion wrong ALMOST all the way around..."

    'This' my dear is your opinion only. Your opinion is not fact. And in MY opinion abortion should be allowed under specific and reasonable circumstances. I'm not exactly for it, but rather I am pro-choice. Does this mean that abortion is right because I'm pro-choice? Nah I don't think so.

    I'm glad it's legal here, in Canada. It's been saving women for a while now.

    You seem really hot tempered btw. Makes you sound foolish, in my opinion.

    8%  Voted for by BecomingCold, Axelle Black, Gosh I Love You, DryIce808.
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  • Pro-Choice
    No offense but you what many pro-lifers don't realize is those that think pro-choice to a lot of us (not all) it's not a baby yet. It's a clump of cells with the potential to become a child. No different than a sperm or an egg separately (have the potential to become a child). So are wet dreams, a male masturbating, or a woman's period all murder?
    To some of the people you are arguing with that's how we see it. Please don't comment with, but it is a baby! I already said, I don't believe that.

    Me personally I only support abortions in the first 1 trimester unless a situation of rape or health risk occurs.

    And so to me it's not a babies life versus the woman's choice, it's simple the woman's choice. If it's rape then more so, her choice to not suffer. In fact if it could be done, and she went for psychological testing and was proven distressed, I would almost be willing to mandate an abortion in the first trimester. (Again remember I don't think it's a baby yet, so don't call me a murderer.) If it's more than 50% chance that the woman will die, I would instate that too. But that's just me, and I realize that it's also going against choice, so I won't defend that. I realize that choice wise it's not a fair thing, so I'm not suggesting it happen, just that is what I (personally) would see as best.

    6%  Voted for by IvoryRose, WiseOwl, silverwindrune.
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  • Split Opinions

    When talking about abortion, it is hard to make a 100% opinion. I am agaisnt abortion if it is used as birth control. If it is because of a case of rape, illness, or such medical reasons, in some cases, I can understand. Although I do not agree with what everyone says, I do respect both sides. So, for anyone who doesnt really know, you are not alone. Im with ya!

    4%  Voted for by TheNightsAreLonely, The Blind Bandit.
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  • Keep Abortion discussions in the Abortion Category.

    Placing debates about Abortion in the Murder category is disrespectful and insulting to any woman who has had an abortion, and even those who havent. I vote it be kept where it belongs. Not under the one-sided heading "murder".

    4%  Voted for by Wisteria, DryIce808.
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  • What if..

    what if you were raped and got pregnat what if haveing the baby would kill you what if you didn't have the money and your family didn't belive that giving up a baby was right and what happened to freedom shouldn't you be able to choose? i don't care if your religios it's not right to force some one to go through that much pain and through those hermones i'm so glad i'm a guy!

    4%  Voted for by iota2208, strawberry gashes.
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  • Not wrong

    It is really something that I don't understand the debate about. I don't consider it a murder, no way. YOu can not kill something that is not alive, at the moment of abortion the "baby" is simply a part of its mother, no more or less then cancer or a finger. In some cases it is better to have an abortion, for the CHILD'S sake. Imagin having to live with a mother who doesn't want you, not at all pleasant. Imagine having a mother who is not there 99% of the time, not pleasant. Imagine having a mother who hates cooking, can't stand pleading and whining, and knows and wants to know nothing about how to raise children, not pleasant AT ALL.

    4%  Voted for by -TheLoneWolf-, WiseOwl.
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  • kill the dumb babies

    the world is overpopulated and its usually stupid people who can't provide well or be good parents who get knocked up and have to ask the question. We don't want the world to be inherited by the genetically inferior. Abort them or drown them... god could care less.

    4%  Voted for by david, WiseOwl.
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  • Poll

    I would like to take a poll here. How many people are pro-life yet pro-war or pro-death penalty? Just a simple response is all thats needed.

    Question 1: Are you pro-life or pro-choice?

    Question 2: Are you for or against war?

    Question 3: Are you for or against the dealth penalty?

    4%  Voted for by DryIce808, Lorranna.
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  • I cant believe this.

    There are some very silly girls out there, 13, 14 yr olds that are having sex with as many guys as they can. They do NOT understand that it is a serious emtional conection. I have been to Parties where there will be rooms of just people, normally under the age of 15 having group sex. These girls, whom probably wont ever see there sexual partner ever again, who havent even had the most basic education can't possibly be expected to look after a innocent child when they still don't look after themselves. on the other end you have the rape childern, girls who are raped, sometimes by numerous men. there are herion junkies that fall pregnant, childern born with an adiction and could very likely carry on through there life. If you are agasint abortion, then are other methods as wrong, such as the morning after pill and contraceptive pill. which, under sme of these views, would also be concided murder. The world has gone far downhill from where we were years ago. Sex is not something that is as special. Children are dumped on the street to die, left and forgotten by parents. A childs life can be so specail and cherished. But sometimes it is better to not start its life at all. They have not yet known the beauty or pain of life, stuggles or joys. Let there souls go to somewhere beautiful and cherished. Not where there mothers had no choice,

    Voted for by strawberry gashes.
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  • theres always 2 sides

    theres always two sides to an argument and it doesnt mean its wronge or right its just a person opinion. but what happens if a woman didnt chose to have sex with a man and becomes pregnat,is she meant to carry the child from a man that did something that evil to her. i mean there are some examples where it may be nesecary and in those cases i think that abortion is understandable, like if it was life or death. or that person was able to look after themselves let alone a baby. but if a woman willing goes out and has sex without being carefull then she should accept that it was her mistake and deal with it. abortion isnt a form of contraception for a silly careless person.

    Voted for by silverwindrune.
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  • To your poll

    Question 1: Pro-Life you had the sex you got pregnent its your probelm, if you were raped and dont want the child put it up for adoption for those thousands of people who want but cant have children due to errors in their body.

    Question 2: Pro-War war is always needed because man is not smart enough to solve things with words. YOu say they should just talk about it well thats not even possible you cant change someones opinions. War is not a game its a liberater.

    Question 3: As the good bible states "Eye for an eye" so if you have done something to get on death row then sorry but dont do the crime if you cant do the time.

    Drylce808 no offense but your arguement is stupid. Taking a life (yes they might not be born yet but still god has done his course to produce the child) from a baby is far different from taking a life from a cold hearted killer or a person who would kill you. So please before you start protecting Criminals think about what you say.

    Voted for by ohbequiet.
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  • Under Some Circumstances

    Under certain circumstances abortion can be tolerated and would actually be a positive effect. This is to all the people that belive abortion is morally wrong and should be illegal at all costs.

    lets say that a woman is giving birth to her child. There are some problems during the procedure and to save the womans life, the baby needs to be aborted.

    Lets say that she decides to take her chances with the baby and dies during the procedure but the baby lives. Should the baby be charged with murder at the legal age? Sounds ridiculous right?? Most of you anti-abortion people say that the child had no idea of his "deed" and should not be tried for it.

    The baby had no idea of his crime or even his existance!! To abort him would not cause him pain or even effect him negativly, well other than death... The woman could have other children, could take care of people close to her and would be given the gift of life.

    If people are so ignorant as to think that even under dire situations abortion should be outlawed then read the above again and think of the most logical HUMANE choice.

    Hope this post helped you guys open up your minds a little bit more. Thank You

    Voted for by seefoo.
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  • It's Called Life

    Let's weigh everything out here for a moment. I know plenty of girls who have gotten pregnant, had babies and had abortions as well. I'm not talking women, I mean girls still living with mommy and daddy. Yes, it's hard to raise a baby at any age, but that's no excuse for an abortion. There are excuses for abortion and it's already been made clear many times that those are deaths of either the mother or child during labor or as the aftermath. But where does it make sense to dismember something who has eyes that see, a brain that thinks, fingers and toes that wiggle and kick and ears that can hear your heartbeat and everything around you? If all that's in my stomach right now is a lump of cells will someone please take the time to explain to me why I can feel my baby moving inside of me? Last time I was in science class they never said anything about being able to feel a lump of cells kick your belly. I know raising a child is the hardest thing to do in the world, but wouldnt you think that watching them pull two burnt legs, two burnt arms and a burnt torso and head out SEPERATELY from inside you be a little harder? So many people have such strong beliefs that "It's not a baby till it's born"... How many of you are for abortion and truly believe that it's not a life until it's born that have actually been pregnant and gone through birth? I'm 18 years old and as of right now I'm a single 4 month pregnant mother. That doesnt make me a bad person, I was on birth control when I got pregnant. I didnt WANT to get pregnant. But I'm dealing with my responsibility to my and the father's child even though I may have to work 2 jobs to support this baby. But it's worth it... I'm bringing a life into this world. A LIFE, not a fetus. You can call me biased, you can call me any name in the book, but there's a BABY in stomach moving around kicking me. NOT a fucking wad of magically moving molecules.

    Voted for by Midget Of Fury.
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  • No miracles

    I believe that life begins at conception. There is no way, in my thinking, that at some appointed time of the pregnancy that what is called a mass of cells, fetus, parasite, many horrid names, no way that it miraculously becomes a human being....it always was a human being at lifes tiniest beginnings at conception.

    I think abortion on demand is wrong......meaning a woman takes no precautions, whatever and just wants rid of the baby. It can't be right to create and destroy that way. Sometimes there are certain conditions whereby I think it has to be between the woman and man and God.

    Voted for by lovesGod.
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  • no exceptions...

    even if the pregnancy is unplanned. You might not be ready to have a baby, but there is a higher power who might have a divine purpose for the life that is forming in your stomach.

    Voted for by vegan719.
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  • choice

    Actually you do not kill a person, it is an feoutus. You are not ending a life as the life has not begun and to all those who argue that a soul is destroyed, aren't souls that have not been given a chance to live then sent back to where they came from to wait for a new body? Think about it!

    Voted for by Princess Harley.
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  • GAH!!!!!!

    I do not want to sound all upset, if I do I am veyr sorry... My birthmother had to deal with abortion/adoption to the extreme.. Yes, I am adopted and am not allowed to see my birthmother until I am of age which the law now states as the age as 21 years old. There is an actual group that are anti-adoption. I have found out what my birthmother had to go through. When I turned 18 yrs old and waiting for the letter hoping that I would be able to see my birthmother, my friend decided to do some research for me. He will not tell me what all he has found out about my birthmothers family, but he did tell me one thing. My birthmothers mom is the leader of the anti-adoption group. It is really hard for me to say that, but my birthmothers mom is the leader of the anti-abortion group. I read an interview that my grandmother did for a newspaper before I was concieved. The question was what choices would you give to your 15 yr old daughter if she was pregnant... (Guess what she said? She replied all too easy too) That she would give her 4 options... #1. keep the baby #2. get an abortion #3. kill yourself #4. (Highly not suggested) adoption... I am sorry, but I also know that for a fact that I thank god everyday for my mom to have enough confidence to deny her mothers advice and give me up for adoption or I wouldnt be here.. I also know from my friends experiences that adoption and abortion are basically equal with the pain that everyone involved has to deal with. I havent forgotten my birthmother, and yearn to see her. My friend can not forget his son that he gave up for adoption. My other friend just now want to kill herself because she 'murdered' her child. I do support both of them.. But that is my opinion because of my experiences with this touchy subject...

    Voted for by rockys8r.
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  • I have to add this

    Unborn babies have no laws to protect them but dolphins do. I know this is a bumper sticker but it is the truth. Why does a dolphin have more rights than a child? Can someone on here answer that for me?

    Voted for by ElisaRose.
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  • 100% wrong
    "If a woman is in the position in which it is 100% positive that she or the baby will die, abortion is, unfortunately, the only answer."

    The very essence of love is to lay down your life for another. This makes abortion wrong 100% of the time. The exception you quote is the ultimate selfishness. Any 'real' mother who has love at the very heart of her being would put their child's life before their own and risk their own life for their their child's.
    Voted for by duana.
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  • Why
    Why do many people on this site see an unborn baby as a person with potential rather than a potential person?
    Voted for by Newsystemcoming.
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  • Wroong!
    Abortion is wrong. From the moment a baby is conceived it is living.
    Voted for by Mystica.
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  • Ah...
    Such a hot button topic. Needless to say, I'm pro life.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Human_fetus_10_weeks_-_therapeutic_abortion.jpg

    But tell me something, I truly am curious, what would you call a forced abortion on a woman that actually wanted to keep her baby? It wouldn't be the woman's choice anymore, so would you call it murder or robbery? Or willful destroying of another persons property? Or would it perhaps, even be legal?
    Voted for by Katrina S. McCoy.
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