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confusion, contradiction30% Voted for by Life-Unknown, angieeeeeeeeeeee, Antique Heart.
I can't have many thoughts on this, but it really interests me. they say if a tree falls but no one hears it, does it make a sound? You can't say that time stops just because it isn't being watched. Day turns to night if the clock stops or not, but if there is nothing, not even nothingness then how could anything be relevant to anything? Nothing can chnage if Nothing's there and nothign will come.
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Who said time was ever there?30% Voted for by angieeeeeeeeeeee, Stumbled Into God, Life-Unknown.
Time doesn't actual exist it's just something humans made up to try and make more sense of the world and porduce some law in order thing about it if time didn't exist nobody would be old and nobody would be young, nobody would be early or late for a job and nobody would know when to meet people. We would all be in confusion but if you were just to go on the assumtion that time was real then it would end in the universe yes. Though we don't know whats behond the universe so maybe it wouldn't end outside the universe.
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Time and SpaceVoted for by Ode to no one.
Although science and philosophy can sometimes carve different views, I think of myself as both a scientist and a philosopher. In terms of science and physics, time and space are interwoven, one can not exist without the other. This is a fairly widely recognised view, and although recognition does not make it right it offers support to its validity. Lets get our definitions in order first... Understand that by 'time' I do not mean the human '24 hours in a day' thing. That is how we measure time, but time exists outside of that attempt to measure it. Time is the persistance of space. And by space I do not mean 'outer space where astronauts go' but the area that is all around us that matter can fill. If time did not exist, space could not be quantified, and if space did not exist, time would have no meaning. So, lets say the universe is everything. Outside the universe there is nothing. No matter, no space. So the universe IS space, as it is the only area of space that exists. Ask yourself, has the universe ended yet? Clearly not, because this space is still existing in time. Now, if all space (the universe) were to cease to exist, there would be nothing left at all. And time is the persistance of space. So there would be no time, because there would be nothing would be being affected by time. Its as though time is a force. If you push a ball (space) it will move and the movement is quantified by time. But if there is no ball, then there is no pushing, and no action or movement to be quantified. Well, thats my understanding at least. Im no expert, but I hope this has helped, or at least given you something to think about.
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NothingVoted for by Uhs Feth Malorn.
Nothing becomes a something when it is given a name. To speak of nothing is to reduce its impact. When one person dies, the world ends. But the universe ending will end time, because it exists only in our minds. So if we die with the universe, then our time will die.
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YesSince there is a dimension of time in the universe, the fourth, even the term "before the universe" is meaningless because all dimensions came into exisence when the universe came into existence.Voted for by Carpool.
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Time is without any TRUE meaning...kinda.Thinks of it as a clock ticking in the abyss...time is still passing, but we just can't SEE it. Mull that over. Get your brain ticking.Voted for by Oral Fixation.





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TeChNoWC
July 22, 2006
Alexander Hine
March 1
PerpetualNight
March 3
Alexander Hine
March 3
But time, as we know it, breaks down in the big bang, because it is linked to matter.
PerpetualNight
March 4
As for being linked with matter can we honestly say that it is, I mean yes time does tend to change matter but cant time go on without matter? Look at it this way, time goes on without us when we die and it goes on without us before we are born correct?
Alexander Hine
March 4
However, from what I have read about the theory of relativity it seems that, at a more basic level than matter - electrons, photons, quarks etc. - time seems to stop (ie. if one were to travel at the speed of light, one would not age because 'time' actually stops at that speed.)
Perhaps this could be taken to imply that, at a basic level, there is not time and, so, all universes are just varied parts of a single timeless tapestry of infinite energy.
Of course, I am no expert in the field of cosmology, so feel free to criticize these ideas.
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As for matter being linked to time, try and imagine 'time passing' without any processes occurring by which one could measure it.
I can't do this myself, which leads me to think that 'time' is an abstraction from physical processes, not a metaphysical reality.
A. H.
PerpetualNight
March 4
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I do however find your veiws extreamly intresteing and they do make sense, perhaps there is no time it is just a figment of our imagination that we made up to justify why we change.
TeChNoWC
March 5
Alexander Hine
March 5
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There is also a cosmological theory that argues that upon our universes destruction a new universe appears again instantaneously in a new big bang.
SO, yeah, those ideas are out there. And quite respectable, too. :-)
A. H.
TeChNoWC
March 5
Alexander Hine
March 6
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I personally prefer the infinite universes theory; but I could change my mind.
A. H.
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