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For Left Hand Path Religions

I sometimes wonder what it really means to be on a Left Hand Path or to be on a Right Hand Path. The Satan of the bible, before falling from heaven, sat at the left hand side of god. Upon falling from heaven, the followers of Satan would have been taking a Left Hand Path because they were taking the path of the angel who has fallen from the left hand side of god. It is my belief, and the belief of many, however, that Satan creates as well as destroys. Satan is the duality of what is perceived as good and evil. There is no other creator, as well as no other destroyer. Satan says he is a creator as well as a destroyer, as are we. Satan needs no help in creating a duality as the god of the bible does. The god of bible even needing a counterpart of evil takes away from perfection that xtians claim he has. As most make out, there is a Left Hand Path, which is not xtianity, and then there is a Right Hand Path which is xtianity. So being a Satanist you travel a Left Hand Path, but to the left of what? In the bible it would be the left of god. I don’t believe in what the bible says about god or about Satan. So what is it that I’m traveling to the left of? To me, seeing that Satan is the sole creator, and the sole destroyer, the being of perfection that I look up to as my creator, is directly straight ahead. To me, I am no more taking a Left Hand Path, than I am taking a Right Hand Path. I am taking a direct path, straight forward. To say I’m taking a direct path straight forward implies to me that xtians are simply not taking a path at all, but wallowing in their stupidity. There is no path worthy of stupidity, whether it be left or right, and since there is nothing to be to the left or the right of, I see my path as straight, and theirs as non-existent. This is not saying that being in a Left Hand Path religion is a dumb thing to say, I am by no means saying anyone is wrong, nor anyone is right. I am simply making a philosophy that takes care of my questions as to what I would be moving to the left of.


  • Left handed?

    The Wicker Man with its left handed Pagan candle, skin of wax. The left hand sychometry of personal statement as divination. The left handed toilet paper, left handed shop selling tin openors at an inflated price. Left handed amni-dexteroity bowling balls symbolising the use of the left hand as an excersise like left handed press ups upon cold marble floors. The left hand does all the thinking, the knuckles of the right hand transmitted from the left hemisphere of the brain implie multiple reasons for never disassociating the left handed paths notion of change. If a fish used it's left gill or a peguin flapped his left fin, is it possible that they to would eventually end up on the opposite side of their predominate habitation, breaking the cycle of eons of years. Key word: Tradition.

    Voted for by Robbwindow.
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  • Huh

    I did not understand any of that so im going to ignore it

    Satan does not create or destroy his job is to tempt humans into sin. Everything is created by god even the bad stuff because it is part of his awesome plan (even stuff like AIDS).

    Also

    Are you a satanist

    Voted for by midgetbasketball.
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  • hmmm
    You have to understand, too, that the bible is a social contract, book of etiquette , and moral guide. Satan was created to illustrate the sin of pride, and later in the middle ages, as a scapegoat for all things bad and unholy. The devil and the angel Lucifer are different characters that were later associated into one or synonymous with the other.

    It is not clear in the bible what was so bad about Lucifer, other than his difference from God. From reading the Bible I get the impression that Lucifer merely disagreed with god. And God being stubborn, prideful, and selfish threw him out.

    People will often make out two sides, such as left and right or good and evil. It is far easier to fit things into two opposite and generalized categorizes. The Christian faction chose the right and therefore made all other opposing ideas left.

    It is similar to the term pagan. We associate it with wiccan, druids, and such, but it really stands for any religion outside of Judaism, Muslim, and Christianity.

    I am a Metaphysical Spiritualist. I recognize the existence of greater powers but I do not think they are conscious ones. Things such as time, the universe, nature, death, and gravity are all things associated with the concept of god. In a way, a type of god does exist, but not in the way people think.

    Man does not like the idea that he cannot appeal to these forces or influence them. God is also a vehicle for control, to reinforce a norm through terror and fear.
    Voted for by Gyne and Tonic.
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  • Right & Wrong denote moral choices

    If one chooses the morally right courses in life one is traveling the right path; if one is making morally wrong choices in life then one is traveling the wrong path. To be indifferent about morality and if things are good or bad, right or wrong and so forth is to live the unexamined life such as Socrates thought was of little value for a human being.

    William James (the guy that wrote pragmatist philosophy from Charles Sanders Pierce's pragmaticist philosophy) wrote about forced options as being a situation when one cannot avoid making a choice, and to not make a choice results in certain consequences that happen because one did not make a choice. If a baby is lying in the street and a truck is driving toward it in the dark, and will probably crush it when it arrives in a minute and there is adequate time to safely remove it but you don't-you have made a choice even if it is non-action. Some would say a morally wrong choice was made it not walking out into the street and removing the toddler from the crush of the semi tires (18 wheels) while others would say that morality is superfluous and that nothing matters.

    Sin literally means to miss the mark or target as in archery...one is sinning by not traveling the right path in life. In the largest sense the right path is renormalizing unto God, unto The One, from which all things have issued. Wickedness and worldliness want to obscure the light in the darkness-Jesus Christ-who is issued directly from The One, and dominate the world, society and universe for itself.

    God is good, and there is a natural law, a natural calling that draws mankind to the right-or as the Buddha said to right speech, right though, right actions-and look what happened to that-it became left-handed Tantric Buddhism as written in the Tibetan book of the dead. Mankind will always find a way to mess things up because none are perfect, none are deserving and all fall short of perfection or as Augustine said the nature of mankind is totally depraved. In a sense Augustine was a neoCalvinist before Calvin in that he relied totally upon the grace of God for salvation from the human condition.

    It isn't just that certain authorities have a proper franchise on the right way and the right things for there is corruption in high places the Apostle Paul wrote-evil wickedness and corruption are socially transcendent things and establishments on Earth normally become corrupted over time. The kingdom of Jesus is not of this world-it is a battle of powers and principalities and the interesting thing is that in the cosmogyny of the neo Platonist philosopher Plotinus from the over-lapping second and third centuries the emanation from The One goes through a series of stages and reductions to materialize as this Universe. It is a long way from the Source in a sense.

    The wrong way will consistently over value the Universe yet simultaneously under-value the goodness of right moral choices...on making those one must develop a moral conscience and think for oneself reading what one can of aretaic ethics, learning about society and how it functions and understanding the social structures and spirit of each individual too in that it should be actualized and developed toward fulfillment in the morally good so far as possible. Worldly security isn't antipathetic to virtue in pursuit of the good, sublime and beautiful ad knowledge of God, instead it is as element in the compresence of life that presents one with moral choices in social guise.

    In the modern world some people would transcend the reality of the phenomenal universe if they could through getting so far into it as possible that it becomes an absurdity for them. Choosing the wrong way in life intentionally is stupid basically-it is stupid like walking in front of a truck just to see if it hurts to get hit by steel moving at 70 m.p.h. One should make the inference from comparable phenomena that the right thing to do is to avoid the maladroit choice a priori. The consequences for making morally wrong choices may not be immediately present yet they do exist and so it is worth doing what is right. If one must pay a price for doing what is right that is better than to simply forfeit any chance of moral correctness by choosing what is wrong and wicked, or evil. There are times when the authorities themselves perpetrate the morally wrong as did the court that convicted Jesus Christ starting a death sentence rolling.

    Jesus Christ overcame death and was resurrected-take that as a matter of faith with evidence existing too. Jesus was here to renormalize the lost humanity onto The One. If you happen to read 'The Essential Plotinus' a book with the best of the 54 tractates of Plotinus on The One named 'The Enneads' you can get a rough sketch of where Jesus came from and what this universe is although Plotinus was not a Christian. The One is absolute Spirit yet absolutely perfect-the material world is a sort of phenomenal crust of the Creator that exists with a variegated concatenation of complete and incomplete broken forms-sin and the wrong way are of the process of getting mired into broken forms and a remote universe cut off from God without faith.
    Voted for by GaryCGibson.
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