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some of the best people ever...

were either gay or bisexual. you have Alexander the Great who was probably the best war general/military commander that ever existed and he never lost a battle, William Shakespeare who wrote many plays and many sonnets about his love for who he considered a beautiful man (the.."shall i compare thee to a summers day" was for a man and a hundred others)and michael angelo who was a fantastic artist was also gay. gay guys are not all about lust and sex and most of the time are more creative then straight men are (the same can be said about lesbians)

so, whadya think about that?


  • Here is what I think...

    and keep in mind, this is coming from the mind of a ginuine christian. I have nothing against homosexuals and other christians shouldn't either. It's true, a lot of the great men in our world were gay and it didn't effect how they did things. It tells us in the Bible not to judge. There is only one judge, and that's God. If a man chooses to be gay, it is not up to us to condemn him or to make his life a living Hell. The absolute most we are supposed to do is tell him, with love and affection and caring, what it says in the Bible about it and show him the passages. Once he has this knowledge, where he wants to go with it is up to him and we should not worry about it. I have a friend who is gay. He asked me once what my viewpoint was, and I told him the honest truth. I also told him I would never look down on him for it and I would never treat him any different than any of my other friends for it. It's not my place. Him being gay is not hurting me at all, so why should I waste my time treating him like garbage and making his life terrible for it? It's between that person and God, we have no place. No one is sinless, therefore no one can justifiably judge anyone else. All these christians starting all this garbage and wars with people seriously need to consider this message, because it's giving christianity a bad name. True christianity tells us not to judge, yet christians can be some of the most judgemental people you'll ever meet. Just keep in mind when you meet someone like this, it isn't true christianity, it's arrogance.

    45%  Voted for by Joshua Scott Peck, radio-panda, Makessenseright, bob2314, Spade-Dragon.
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  • You forgot...

    You forgot about Divinci. He was also bi, and it has recently been proven that the mona lisa was actually him. Silly crossdresser. ^_^ I love him.

    18%  Voted for by scarlet screams, petethemeat.
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  • Nice Debate

    I would have to agree that many great people have been seen as homosexual and Michelagel(sp) being one of the least debated. but some people believe that Alexander the Great was Bisexual and also the great warrior Achillies (if he was real) and the Master Playwriter Shakespeare was also bisexual. it is difficault to prove with a certainty for some of these people have had wives and then you couldnt say that you saw the word gay or homosexual in some work back then.

    Voted for by Kazrith.
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    First off never consider killing an accomplishment, consider it as a submission to ignorance. Best die than kill.

    Voted for by IiYiIiIzage.
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  • role models

    i also think that these people can be role models for gay or bisexual people in our society as well. in our society where people are constantly being told that being gay is wrong...gay people need someone to look up to and there aren't many gay role models in our society today (except for ellen degeneres, rosie odonell, danny pintaro, etc) also, these people show straight people that gays are just like them and are no different. i have heard from people on this site that they think "gays are retarded", "not as good as straights", etc, so these people prove homophobes otherwise.

    Voted for by cosmosis.
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  • you forgot another one!

    well maybe not forgot...he's not THAT famous. But it was Elizabeth I's uncle. His name was...I think George and he was Anne Boelyn's brother. That was one of the reasons he was executed on Green Hill. It was said that he married to cover up his homosexuality. He had a gay lover. I think it's sad that anyone would have to hide who they really are. Like Joshua Scott Peck said earlier, it's not our place to judge. Since when are we perfect? Unless you are perfect you have no right to judge. We aren't the judges here, God is. And by the way, it's not a choice to become gay, some people may choose to, but others can't help it as muc as I can't help but be straight. And those who are brave enough to "come out of the closet" and are "loud and pround"...shouldn't we be praising them for their bravery? They face being a minority everyday. They are constantly ridiculed on TV, the newspaper, everyday, in gossip, schools, condemned in church, the list goes on. I admire all who have gay pride. They are the bravest people I know. I know that if I were gay, I'd be too scared to tell anyone fearing condemnation, and the judgement. People treat gays differently. The think that all gays are like Jack on Will & Grace. But maybe we should think a little more about Will. He's gay, but he's also a successful lawyer! He's like all normal guys, he has trouble with his love life like normal guys...isn't that normal? He doesn't have a "gay sounding" voice. He's exactly normal! So maybe people should think a little more before "dissing" a gay.

    Voted for by Forgotten Dust.
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