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Are the old fashion ways of treating females degrading in any way?

Holding doors open, paying on dates, driving people around. Are these offensive to females?


  • Degrading? depends

    Now, if you hold the door open because she is carring something and can't open it herself it's allright. If she likes being treated like a lady it's alright. But if you treat all women like that, a good part of them will be offended. Not all women are made to look after children, stay at home, and cry their eyes out. Some women are tougher than the majority of men, and they will not apreciate men treating them like its 14th century. Women ans men are EQUAL. I repeat EQUAL. There are both types of people in both sexes. How many centuries will it take to get it through your extra thik heads?

    23%  Voted for by CrazyRebel, The Blind Bandit, -TheLoneWolf-, RebelRebel.
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  • Honestly who cares ,
    Women lost all rights to being given any special concideration when Womens liberation movements declared them to be men, if they are offended, take it like a man
    17%  Voted for by Dwn, Carpool, TeChNoWC.
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  • No

    Degradeing? Just the opposite really... Here is how I see it. Men are built (naturally) to do three things: 1. Hunt 2. Protect 3. Reproduce

    Women are built to: 1: Have children 2: Attract a mate 3: Nuture a child

    Clearly the male has the more 'muscle' job, and the women have the more 'stay-at-home' job. As far as I can tell, the ways women were treated (for the most part, I do agree some were extreamly wrong) was in such a way for the women to be concidered a queen. She never had to do work outseide of the house, she never had to do any heavy lifting, she never has to be in danger, or treated bd, taken atvantage of, etc. People didn't expect women to work because most men, even if they don't act it (even gays), think of women higher than themselves. (You show me a gay man who dosn't idolize a chick and I'll show you a fake gay man.) All-in-all, I try and treat the women I know better than any guy. I offer to do work for women, not because I don't think they can do it, but rather becuase I think they are too good to.

    11%  Voted for by Dr Thrax, looking4realtruth.
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  • The line between Yin and Yang

    Ok, now for a women's opinion. I'm a feminist, but not in the eyes of most feminist. I believe that there are certain things that women just werent meant to do. That doesnt make you better than us, just different. I personally do not understand why a women would want to take on a man's role, or vice versa. I certainly wouldnt want to be a construction worker, and I'm also very aware that I'm physically incapable of it. Men we're naturally built physically stronge, protective and emotionally hardened, women on the other hand are intellegent, supportive and kind. Thats just how it is and there are some lines that should not be crossed. It's just a respect issue. I look at it this way, I'll never try to take on a mans role or speak to you the way a man would anotehr man, and you should never treat me in the disrespectuful, hateful, violent way men treat each other.

    11%  Voted for by DrowningAngel1989, Carpool.
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  • Sometimes Degrading, sometimes not

    I think that guys should do these things for girls only if they want to, not because society says they should. I have held doors open for women and paid their expenses, but not because society expects me to. I did it to show real appreciation for my woman, real love. I think if a guy does these things just because everyone else says he should, he is shallow and has no backbone.

    11%  Voted for by Sankofalokumbe, looking4realtruth.
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  • I find it offensive
    That as a 14 year old boy I was forced to take my hat off in an ex-services club while women were walking around with cowboy hats. No, it's nothing religious, just gender persecution. I could sue.
    11%  Voted for by TeChNoWC, Weydon.
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  • I say...
    Don't we women hold the door open for guys, too? I know I do, and I see no problem with it. When a commuter has his hands overloaded at the airport, shouldn't I help him? Or is that a man's job? Is it stereotyped that I won't be able to carry his suitcase? Or is it stereotyped that I shouldn't?
    As a female racer, half the world is scowling at me. A male spectator came up to me the other day and our conversation went like this:
    "Shouldn't you be at home staying out of trouble and helping your kids do the same?" he asked me.
    "I don't have kids," I replied.
    "You and your husband better get busy."
    "I'm not married."
    "You should be."
    By the way, I didn't even have my helmet off. He wasn't worth the trouble. Tell me, is this right in any way?
    Voted for by Spartan-015.
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  • What do you think?

    I feel very strongly that females should have equal rights as men. I would very happily let my wife work and stay home with the kids if that is what she wanted. However, I am very old fashioned in a few ways and I recently got inot a discussion when a woman felt insulted when i held open the door for her because she thought i was acting like guys had to do everything. I believe that some of the old fashion traditions are very good. Things such as Holding the door open for the female, the males picking the dates that they go on (although not always because even we run out of ideas.. lol), the males paying for everything on dates, The males driving, males asking girls to dances/prom, and males asking females out/to marry them. These are all things that I feel should still be done and it seems like they are not staying important. I personally feel sortof insulted if a female will not let me pay for her movie ticket or for diner. Is this me being old fashioned or are these values still important?

    Voted for by Dalegend.
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