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Why is it that many believe the death penalty should be outlawed if abortion is outlawed?

  • A Woman's Choice

    How far along is her pregnancy? Is the child alive? Am I suppose to discuss this from a religious or non-religious standpoint? For many reasons an abortion is the wrong and right choice, but the wrong and right have to be defined by the mother. If a woman is weakened by a bodily disfunction and knows that if she has the baby she will die (and does not wish to sacrifice herself for the child) she deserves the right to have an abortion if she wants one. Many mothers have gotten pregnant by sheer accident and can not support or raise the child. Then again, there are always those who choose to keep the child, which is fine (I'm just giving a few examples to counter your standpoint because noone else has). It is their desicion in the end, and neither law nor religion should be able to force them one way or the other.

    I'm against the death sentance and think that the worst punishment would be life in prison with a picture of their victem covering a full wall of their cell.

    20%  Voted for by Eye Sea, dockmaster134.
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  • They are different
    Abortion and the death penilty are twon different things all together.One is killing a human for killing another while on the other had abortion is just killing someone because of a personal reason. Yes both are murders, and yes abortion is in my perspective considered to a murder and until a certain point there is nothing at the moment that we can do about it. If a mother gets rid of a child through abortion then it is done. If another person kills another he should not be put to death for it. That shows that in some degree killing is fine as long as its killing in the name of killing others who have killed.
    If the death penalty is allowed then it shows families who have had somone close to them killed that if they have proof that that particular man killed the person it is justified for them to kill him just as the law would do themselves. The Death penalty and abortion should stand as very differnt issues but have the same ending. Dont allow it for it is just another death that is really unneeded.
    20%  Voted for by lovetofear42022, NeferMaatNetjer.
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  • Honestly...

    If you have an abortion, you are killing someone who did nothing wrong... they are the result of others actions. The death penalty is killing someone due to their own actions based upon their own free will. So a baby is not given the choice, but the person who commits the act that deserves the death penalty did it out of their own free will.

    Also, with the death penalty, normally the person will live in jail 20 or more years before they are actually killed so its not like they are instantly killed. A baby is given what... 9 months or less? 20 years to live... 9 months... a huge difference there!

    20%  Voted for by Sharcu, NeferMaatNetjer.
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  • Pro Choice

    I don't think abortion is wrong, but I'm not saying that it is right, at least not in the sense that every woman should do it, when faced with an unwanted pregnancy. I suspect I wouldn't be able to go through withit. But I don't think I should infringe on other women's rights, just because of my personal feelings on the subject.

    I think this whole "Murder, murderer!!!!!" stuff is just unecessary hyperbole.

    As an interesting point, I knew a woman once whose (catholic) parents forced her to have an abortion because she was unmarried. She didn't want one, and I think that forcing someone to keep a baby they don't want is as bad as forcing them to get rid of one they do.

    Voted for by London Calling.
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  • execute

    There in lies the solution: No pregnancy should ever be ‘unwanted’. It is the scrupels of humanity that are skewed, not the rights of the parent.

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    If a person murders another; that person must pay a debt that is equally harsh and yet humane. Execution is it, plain and simple.

    If a human kills another, it may be justified and is not always a murder.

    Abortion is always murder, with no grey areas. A life that begins, no matter how far along it is, is still the beginning of a beautiful thing. To stop a babies growth, against it's right to life or a future life is absolutely a murder. Execute.

    Voted for by frndofyaweh.
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  • I don't understand...

    I was having a discussion in class about abortion, and the subject of the death penalty came up. And someone said that abortion is the same as the death penalty. "Why do we have the right to kill a man guilty of murder, but a mother can not choose to have an abortion?" To me, these are entirely different. You are allowed your freedoms until you violate someone else's. If a man kills another man, he deserves to die, because he took away that other man's freedoms. But a mother is taking away her baby'd freedom to live, without even giving the child a chance to speak up. Aren't they different?

    Voted for by NinelDuellen.
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  • Well...
    Because abortion is performed on a fetus, when it's not quite a human being yet, and not having one sometimes affects both the mother and the child. On the other hand, death penalty is about killing an actual human being, and I've yet to see a governor, police officer or whatever having physical or mental health issues because they didn't execute some murderer/rapist.
    Voted for by Dienush.
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