Ok,an Honest,caring man dies,but doesn't belive in god,do you think he will be sent to hell JUST because he does't belive in Him?
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God sends no one to hell18% Voted for by Energizer Bunny, GoblinQueen Warious, staticgrace, yahokay389, Sankofalokumbe. (6 total)
**do you think he will be sent to hell**
You imply God will send him to hell and that is far from correct. God sends no one to hell, for each person is responsible for their own choice based on their decision of what they do with Christ. In that sense, each person chooses where they will spend eternity.
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A non-believer may be striving harder to know truth than a believer15% Voted for by wisdomsearch, OrangeMoon, Applehead, a woman to love, SanguineSaint.
Some people who say they do not believe in God really mean they do not believe in the commonly accepted version of Christianity. They see inconsistencies and absurdities in Christian teachings. They doubt it, and for good reason. There is a lot in the Bible that does not add up, if you examine it closely.
I heard someone say, and it rings true to me: "Doubting Thomas was nearer to heart of God than many would like to think." I have never thought a truthful mind could rationalize and explain all the inconsistencies you find in scripture. Many have tried, but I also think their intellects have gone outside the realm of reality in the attempt.
I wrote a poem on this that explains my view better than I could if wrote paragraphs, so maybe I will share it here:
Selling Out Jesus
The Anti-Christ offered to spin Jesus’ acts
To detract from the truth and twist the facts.
He grabbed the Bible writers' pens,
Twisted their minds and put therein
Half-truths and outright lies,
Cloaked in complex mythologies
That persisted down through the eons,
Producing crusades and inquisitions
Jesus truly wept
Because he was portrayed as inept,
And suffered because he was deified,
Cast in stone and petrified,
And placed on a false pedestal
Just to make him inaccessible.
Way up on his throne so high
He’s much too good for you and I.
And all were told to believe
He’d bear our sins and make them leave
‘Cause we’re too bad to bear them, see
Hopeless, hapless sinners we
Who can't tell an apple from the tree,
Who cannot cope with reality.
Let Jesus carry it all
While we go out and have a ball.!
Let Jesus be the buffer
So we don't have to struggle and suffer.
Find any way you can to drain
The wisdom from each man's brain.
And commit deceitful treason
Accept by faith this circular reason:
That the Bible is God's only word
Because it says it is:
How absurd!
If a man searching deeper for accurate answers refuses to accept by faith the circular reasoning of the Bible, does that make him closer or farther from God? I would say closer, because he is taking responsibility to use his God-given mind to know and understand. He is not just blindly following a mantra, but trying to take responsibility that his mind be in agreement with truth, and therefore with God.
If a man goes through life questioning that the "god" many others claim is God is not real, then he is doing better than the blind follower. He is striving for truth, wheras the blind follower is just following along and not struggling to know anything for himself. Since there is evil in the world the blind follower is the one on shaky ground. He is looking no further than a book, a book that has undergone a great deal of manipulation and editing through the centuries by people who had agendas. He is not trying to know what is true from his own wisdom and experience and therefore is ripe to fooled and used.
I think there is a hell and God punishes people for not striving to be their best and know what is true. I believe many practicing Christians already spend a lot of time in hell for thinking they have all the answers and others don't. No doubt they do know some truth, but they only know a scrap of it and think they know it all. There are people all over the world, believers and non-believers who possess insight into truth. Any religion that thinks it has a corner on the truth likely doesn't.
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the man's belief9% Voted for by Tarianas Last Hope, christopheshea, The Blind Bandit.
I think that the honest man will be sent to where ever his beliefs say a person goes after death, depending on thier life. Perhaps he believes in reincarnation. Or just a "good place" and a "bad place". It just depends on the person.
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It depends6% Voted for by Sankofalokumbe, Whereslawrence.
I personally believe that most people that are sent to Hell would rather be there. I mean, in the Bible, it not only asks you to believe in God, but to submit to his will. I mean, the demons and Satan believe in God. They believe that he exists, but they refuse to submit to his dominating force. And that is why they are in Hell. I personally feel this isn't a good or bad situation, for some people would rather suffer than live under a dominating force. I an honest man died, but had not yet submitted to God's authority, I personally feel he will go to Hell, but a man that doesn't want to submit would rather be in a place like Hell. Unlike most people, I personally don't think you have to address God as God, Jesus, etc. I personally believe that you don't have to go to church every Sunday to be intact with God. God is everywhere, not just in the hearts of saints or in churchs. I personally feel that God is in whore houses and crack houses as well as in the houses of saints. I personally think that God isn't as close-minded towards people who aren't super religious as church people. God opens his arms to everyone, not just saintly people.
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The answer (as most answers are) is in the bible!!6% Voted for by endsofbread, TeChNoWC.
The answer of course is yes, an honest man who doesn't believe in God will go to hell. But a better question is.. what is hell? Do you really believe that a LOVING God would send people to be eternally tortured in hell? What kind of loving parent would torture their own child forever and ever? Especially when Ecc 9:5 says the dead are conscious of nothing at all, then how in the world could they be tortured? The only way to make sense of it is to realize that the eternal torment mentioned in Rev 14:9-11 and Rev 20:10 refers to eternal destruction. Fire has always symbolized complete destruction and thats what it means here again. It is torment because there is no chance of relief, there is no chance of a resurrection, satan, and his demons and all the wicked ones who choose to follow him will be condemned to a second death (Rev 21:8) where there will be eternally destroyed (2 Thes 1:9). The Bible often talks about resurrection and there will be a resurrection after armageddon. As Rev 20:13,14 says, "and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." So there is your answer to your friend the honest man who died but did not serve god. There will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous (Acts 24:15). You see, God is a just God and everyone will have a chance to know him and serve him in either this life or the next. Yes, God is definitely just, wise, and loving.
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Hope not!6% Voted for by The Blind Bandit, omarmohamed.
Well,wouldn't be silly if you had a loved one die who was an honest and a good person,not beliving in god,and burning in hell forever because he never belived in god?I think we aren't to judge,but i also belive one should not be sent to a pit of fire forever because we don't belive in god.
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ah huhVoted for by grant.
To hell if he's lucky. To spend life eternal in heaven with those lying christians would be a worse hell.
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One Bible Verse Says It AllVoted for by Kizzy Kat.
God doesn't sen people to hell, they choose, yes, but if the person is not a follower of Christ, he or she will go to hell. In John 14, Jesus says, and I quote: "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except through me." It's that simple, people!
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Does It Matter?Voted for by Kei-Aira.
I don't believe in God, I don't believe in religion, I don't believe in Heaven or Hell.
When I die, I will be cremated and that'll be the end of me. (or you get eaten by worms - your choice)
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Good grief!Voted for by The Blind Bandit.
For those of you who believe in an all-knowing God as defined by Christianity, are you saying that you truly believe good people who have different beliefs, or those who may never have been exposed to Christianity, or perhaps died in infancy without having a chance to even know about this God, will all be condemed to eternal damnation? Are you saying it is THEIR choice they went there? I fail to see the "just, wise, loving" God in that.
Good grief, people!
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Gods electionVoted for by Dwn.
First, there are no honest men , second we live under grace and not the law,and finaly God forgave all of his people, His elect[not all mankind]because of the sacrifice of his son.There were no requirements , not circumscission, nor repentance , nor belief, if he elected one , he did so before the begining of the world, and jhe did not fail in redeaming them, not one who god wants in heavon will be in hell, not a single one of his , and not a single child of peredition will be in heaven, they are not his neather can they be or become his.over the years , man has sought many avenues in which he might claim his salvation as his own doing, non of them , not one, has been agreed upon by the god who made the rules and rules that which he made
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god, heaven and hell dont existVoted for by TwistedButterfly13.
there is a second world. where EVERYONE goes when they die. and until the great war between the two worlds no one will see this unless you listen closely to what the spirits say and believe. to read more upon this subject please see my blog at myspace.com/mcrdevotee.
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I doubt it.Voted for by Aedon.
If the christian god does exist, I don't think he'd send a good person to hell for not believing in him. At most, he'd probably just "silly mortal" and let them in. It's a bit too contradictory to the overall tone of the bible which is that he's forgiving and loving and not a prick.
Interesting side-note. Around sixth grade I hypothesized that everyone goes where they think they'll go. So aetheists get nothing, Christians get heaven, Buddhists get reincarnation, etc.
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What is hell?Voted for by OrangeMoon.
The key to this question is in understanding the concept of 'hell'. To answer this question, I will propose another question, "what is heaven?". Heaven is the place for those who are closest to God. One becomes close to God by living a life that is in accordance with God's ways, i.e. love, generosity, honesty, righteousness, etc. To get back to my point, hell is simply the absence of God. Those who live evil lives hurting others and caring only for themselves, find themselves, in the other world, far away from God, because they cannot relate with God. Those who lived a 'good' life but did not believe in God would not go to hell, but would not go to heaven either. How would a person's spirit be in resonance with a place that is in-tuned with a being that person did not believe in? There are varying degrees between hell and heaven and the person goes to the place in which he/she feels is most right for them.








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Weydon
July 19, 2006
Energizer Bunny
July 20, 2006
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July 20, 2006
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TeChNoWC
July 20, 2006
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Man, it gets worse.
Get some balls and put up with it. If God was malevolent, you would still have to just try and appease him, cause he's better than you. Its smarter than pissing him off. If God truly was malevolent, he wouldnt care about your incessant rambling. He would just chuck you in hell. Come and please him, and maybe you will get in his good books.July 20, 2006
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Weydon
July 20, 2006
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Energizer Bunny
July 20, 2006
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GoblinQueen
Very nice response :)July 28, 2006
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likewhatitis100
August 5, 2006
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He will be thrown in lake of fire
According to the bible, the word of God the man will go to hell.The bible says no man comes to me except through Jesus Christ.The bible says salvation comes (Romans10:9) if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Those who have been saved their names will be written in the book of life. According to Revelation 20:15 those who will not be found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire. The bible says we are not saved by our works but by the grace of God.Not believing in God is disobidience of worst kind.Weydon
August 6, 2006
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likewhatitis100
August 6, 2006
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EVIL IS INHUMAN AND UNGODLY
So good is human and Godly. The desire to do good is inborn. Anywhere what makes think I have no desire to be good, only a desire to protect myself from hell?Weydon
August 7, 2006
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ExpensiveThinker
September 13, 2006
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EVIL IS LIVE (backwards)
You have to be a few years old to read the bible, otherwise it's just what your parents told you. chances are your parents are lying sinners (strictly going by the numbers), it follows that you're also likely to be decieved by your parents into believing whatever metaphysics de jour they are trying to pour down your throat...(kool-aid anyone?) so, provided this, a person conceivably may NOT be making their own decision about which travel destination they want to go to for their afterlife,, especially if they die young and without a chance to learn all of those wonderful vague and fictious narratives in the lovely archaic philosophy of people 2000 years ago (possibly one of the few things immune to cultural evolution) that we call the Bible. Pork is pig meat and Beef is from a cow. So, if you get what i'm saying than you (bunny, goblin, et al) will likely realize the err in your rash jumping to conclusions.Please register or login to comment! It's totally free