Time is a human invention, and there really can be no concept of a sequence of events, if you step back and look at history and the future as one giant ocean, instead of a river that flows and changes and moves continually forward. Biblical views or scientific reasoning welcome and desired. -Neeg
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because we think we are so clever at inventing that we become ruled by our cleverness22% Voted for by grant, exquisite mind.
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We can't visualize a timeless universeWe just couldn't image a realm witch time doesn't exsist yet there are still different events that happen. It's a strage consept that I will never be able to fully understand until I die.Voted for by Doom Pickels.
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Quoting one of my earlier posts on 'time is relative only to matter'Voted for by TeChNoWC.
Yes, time represents the displacement of matter. But, I think it would still exist independent of matter. Otherwise, hypothetically, time would have been created when matter was created; when the universe was created. This would mean that there was no time before the big bang, and then that would mean the big bang was the beginning of everything, because no time would have passed or existed before the event of the big bang. So if I were to examine all of this as a god or something, (in this instance bounded by time), as a god I would have no experience before the big bang. If I tried to experience this, no time would pass by. Meaning, I couldnt sit there and watch nothingness, waiting for the big bang to come along. It would just always spring out of nothingness. Hence, being bounded by time, I could not experience nothingness because there is no time to hold the advancement of nothingness to something. Time, I believe, would have to transcend the existence of something or nothingness. It is a metaphysical object. Periods of time where there is no matter between two periods of time where there is matter still has to exist. If time only exists when there is matter, then this could not be. Hence, if I were to destroy all matter, then I would destroy all time, and instantly the next possible period of time when matter is in existence would instantly spring into being. This does not make sense.
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Can you clarify what you mean by time being a human invention?Voted for by trolly.
I don't think humans invented time any more than we invented thermodynamics or gravity. Unless by 'invent' you mean came up with a frame of reference for a naturally occuring, relative occurance.
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consciousnessVoted for by Auxiliar.
We imagine our own consciousness, and later imagine that which constantly frustrates as another consciousness. As we observe ourselves, we'll naturally take to observing this great Other. In establishing our own identity, patterns of behavior, likes and dislikes, we ascribe all of these to a great Other as well, through messianism, historicism, and mythology.
The darknesses that underlie our own consciousness (the possibility that it's never done out of kindness, the possibility that we only ever deceive ourselves, the possibility that we are unwittingly evil, etc.) are so frightening, that even being ruled by a system that denies it (rationalism, logocentrism, utilitarianism, etc.) are preferable to that which the consciousness has no defense against other than systems. In systematic thinking, then, emerges time. Time is that which separates the sounds of speech from one another, which separates two people running towards each other, which separates the stages of development, or in general what is necessary for a plan or an action. Without time, the closed systems of experiments (thought experiments or empirical experiments) are inapplicable in two given experiences in which they were thought to be useful.
We allow time to rule us, because we have an image in our mind. This image is the conception of the possibility that time, at a later time, will no longer rule us. To conceive of the changes of a given harmonious order, we must conceive of time, before and after, cause and effect. Also, we allow time to rule us, because we are constantly encountering that which is outside of us. In meeting with the other things, the process of thinking in terms of time allows us to separate these rapports, discern one meeting from another, etc.
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Time created by GodGod created time when He created the universe. He made days that were governed by the universal time clock. If your watch is wrong, you check the radio, the radio checks the weather service, the weather service checks the universal time (kept in many laboratories around the world), determined by atomic clocks, this is determined by the rotation of the earth in relation to the sun, moon, and other planets. So, if God created the universe, He created the first timepiece, which is the universe, which we use to determine time on earth.Voted for by mudgod.
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TIME IS A HUMAN INVENTION??Okay, now think about this for a minute; Time is a signature on the face of man. DUH. It is not an invention, but a forced and logical resignation; Time is here and it hurts.Voted for by frndofyaweh.
Time is negative. As time goes by it is gone for good. The Bible tells you this.
Time is one of the curses on humanity and God is trying to tell you the way out of it, in His Book.
In order to escape time: you must become light energy. The Bible shows us this. It is called entering the kingdom of Heaven.
It is basic science and The Bible covered it thousands of years before our scientists did.
God says; I am a 'Neverending Light'. I like to see Him as, Eternal Rays that shine unbroken. He is outside of the realm of time and is the source of all other energy in the universe. -
Time is a property of this realityTime is merely a way for our limited brains to order/organize our EXPERIENCE for the purpose of development and expansion. Time is simply a RULE, and NECESSITY of this realm. Saying time is a curse is like saying the rule of using your feet only is the curse of playing soccer!Voted for by s0v13t.
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Wormholes as Imperfections in Gravitative Spacetime
We can only interact to the utmost of our understanding, and because our feeble human minds can not fathom all of the major contributing factors to even one event, which defines a single step taken of many that form a path, we view spacetime as linear. The relative growth and interaction of humans over time is indeed unique to each human, which is why we have clocks with which to regulate our interaction. My own views of the complexity of the true nature of spacetime and how I interact with the world are two very different perceptions, but because I know that I can only handle a certain number of factors contributing to a situation at one time, I accept the view I have adopted with which to interact with the world, despite attempting to understand the true nature of the universe through oversimplification. I interact with the world as a series of probabilities and possibilities, which is easy enough, if you realize that quantum mechanics proves that absolutely anything is possible, although a hierarchy of probabilities exist, which fluctuates in certain patterns that can be predicted to a certain level of accuracy. I view the structure of timespace in a MUCH more complex way. The thinking behind how I view this has it's roots in Newtonian physics, when revisited. Celestial bodies gravitate toward each other when a body of greater mass warps spacetime allowing bodies of lesser mass to effectively roll toward it. All gravity and orbits and movement (which is the manipulations of centers of gravity, typically, in conjunction with friction) is then the warping of spacetime, which, because of it's spherical range of effect, interacts linearly from the center of a body outward, affecting first and to greater degrees those bodies closest to it. Given that spacetime, as Einstein viewed it, was a fourth dimensional solid structure that was unchanging, this would imply that every body is adjacent to every other body all of the time. When complex molecular structures are considered, this can only lead to one conclusion: There exists only one body that interacts with itself. I can explain how this could be accomplished. The 'Big Bang' is supposed to be a singularity of the entire universe, right, even space time, right, so then how could the 'Big Bang' occur over time, which is contained within itself? Simply put, it can't. I believe that the 'Big Bang' is a constant state of singularity that we are expanded from. Nothing compresses uniformly, and I do not believe that the singularity of the 'Big Bang' compressed timespace uniformly, which resulted in imperfections and folds and bubbles in places at the innermost places of the relative singularity. These imperfections were at a quantum level, I believe, and functioned as wormholes (tunnel-shaped) which allowed the singularity to interact with itself inside the tunnel-shaped wormhole repeatedly during the few moments of fluctuation that the (stretching) distortion of the wormhole provided, which then spawned new imperfections (wormholes) where the singularity had interacted with itself, in which the singularity was able to interact with it's multiple selves on each end of each wormhole created. This process would have repeated indefinitely, causing infinite universes surrounding each and every particle of matter to appear and disappear, although they would be imperceivable by us do to the universes being contained within these quantum fluctuations serving as wormholes. So, there you have it. Our cosmological universe as we know it is contained within the expanse of a giant wormhole, which contains, and is contained within, many more, giving us only a flash of time to exist within the universe before the universe that contains the wormhole within which we exist ceases to exist due to it's originating universe ceasing to exist. We experience this spacetime relatively as compared to our size within it, and so we experience time very slowly, in a very small portion of a single, infinitesimal wormhole in some other universe.Please register or login to comment! It's totally free