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Emotions

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    Emotions

    How paradoxical is it that we blame others for our hurt, we blame them for the pain we have, we hold them responsible, for whatever emotions we have, bliss or heartrending.

    Emotions are implied by self, we are the cause of our own emotions, and also the affect of it, we have them by our insecurities, by our own flaws (good or bad). We feel them; they involve us (self). We can’t say; he/she/they hurt my feelings or even say that they helped me emotionally, supported me, there is no good or bad.

    Example: A loved one dies. We feel sad? Why? Cause the loved one died? No, why would we feel sad about that? I am not heartless, the times we shared together are gone, or whatever reason, the hurt you have will be selfish, implied by self a result of your own insecurities however this could add to the reason for your sadness, but it wont be the cause of it.

    Physical Emotion In theory it should be the same as mental emotion, however by pop-culture, the way WE programmed our minds and due to our flaws we miserably fail this concept.

    Actually there should come no feeling from death, even if it adds to the cause, death is neutral, death has no emotions, no pain, no laughter.(I am not condoning suicide)

    If you experience pain you are most likely the effect of something, but let us be the cause of things, Let us be strong and write our own destiny, emotions are mindless and will take you no good where, time is not merciful your value will degrade by time.

    J.Fourie

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    We blame others for pain because if we didn't we'd just be in a different sort of pain, the pain from an O'Neill drama. Pain is inevitable, and Aeskhylos took it a step further: "Pain is that which teaches us to know that which we don't want to know." We are far smarter and grow much more in a world with pain.

    What you say is true, we are the cause of our emotions. We only feel what we allow ourselves to feel. If we harnessed our capacity not to feel, such emotions would fade away. Well, I've watched enough "Star Trek" and I've read enough Keats and I've listened to enough Beethoven to believe that should we discipline ourselves to avoid such emotions, it will be in exchange for something far worse. If these emotions come from our own insecurities and neuroses, so be it; it still doesn't matter.

    If a loved one dies, one ought to bloody well be sad. Part of one's psyche, part of one's love toward people in general has been erased from the earth. Everyone feels this, and I've no qualms in saying it. It keeps people together, it gives people something other than monomania in their lives.

    And to fear death, egalement, is only natural. The death itself is inevitable, of course, but it symbolizes much more. It symbolizes a state of being devoid of thought, feeling, action; it symbolizes ignorance, paralysis, abulia; it symbolizes all things that mean nothingness to anyone. Not to fear it is to not have meaning.

    What you say is true, emotions are mindless. So is the birth of life. So is the beginning of the universe. Indeed, language is mindless, as Derrida's differance states. Logic is mindless, as Russell's paradox proves. Mathematics is incomplete, as Goedel's proof expresses. In a nutshell, on some levels, everything is mindless. There are no criteria to exclude the mindful from the mindless, it's all relativized. If we define strength, it is in the custom of those strong who came before us. If we define destiny, it is in terms of those men of destiny before us: Napoleon, Caesar, Ozymandias, Stalin, etc. Destiny helps you get where you're going, I will admit, but it doesn't guarantee that you'll like what you find there.

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