Portal to evil or harmless game?
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Harmless50% Voted for by Weydon, petethemeat, CheesyPartyPotatoes.
What we should really be looking out for is Chutes and Ladders!
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Go with your heartVoted for by Dwn.
Personaly, the onley evidence I have seen that to me seems credible is in the bible where we are warned from talking to spirits, and nothing good came from the onley example of anyone talking to the dead. But thats my take. Your risks are your own.
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"Talking to spirits"/"the dead"
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of course not he is alive, death could not hold him
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Really? Where is he? Perhaps he's wherever Elvis was last sighted, or Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness monster. Let's try to keep some sense about us, yes?
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Perhap he is, I suspect you can find him just about anywhere you want to look
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THERE’S AN ongoing debate about the powers and realities of the Ouija board.Voted for by Zhell1313.
Essentially, there are three basic positions: 1.It is inherently dangerous, can open portals to evil entities and should never be used. 2.It is only dangerous if used with evil intent, but can be a useful tool for spirit mediumship if used properly and with good intent. 3.It is inherently harmless and has no real powers of mediumship for good or evil; its effects, if any, are only psychological in nature. Which is true? Talk to any group of people and you’ll find strong proponents for each argument. A few days ago, I conducted a survey of people on this subject. It results showed that 65 percent of those who responded felt the Ouija was dangerous, and 35% felt it was harmless.
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Polls are of the devil and should be banned.
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With out polls
We would have no place to hang our hats, flags or girlfriends/wives. Ba dum dum da....
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This is all assuming...Voted for by Stepherz804.
the thing actually works. The boards most people have are board game boards. I think it all depends on the people and the board. If an actual spirit board was used then maybe but then you have the quality of the people using it.
If someone can actually talk to spirits they wouldnt need the board so much.
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Would you take the risk on such an assumption
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I wouldn't find much of anything distributed by the Parker Brothers something to be put in the "risk" caregory....except...you know, that game Risk. But I don't know if that's even Parker Brothers!
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I wouldnt discount anything as inconsiquintial because of a potentual desquise based on a seemingly innocent and harmless fun, Sometimes the easiest place to attack is the place least guarded.
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All I know is that at a slumber party when the board moved on it's own (meaning no one was touching it and the piece slid to yes) it was promptly burned. On a side note Ouija Boards burn very easly and have a cool green and black burn to them =)
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I dont think that anything harmful can come from using one. Its a game of chance or risk as it has been said. If you actually do contact the dead its not really in your hands anymore from there anyway.
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I would very easily discount it as a risk. Do you think if it held any credibility it would be distributed as a board game, mostly for kids at slumber parties? If it was real, it would be a device...THAT COULD TALK TO THE DEAD. Do you understand what that would mean? If I actually had something that could do that? Scientific evidence to the supernatural and an afterlife. People chatting it up with loved ones passed. The murdered giving their testimonies against the murderers. It's not even like polygraphs, where they are not held indisputably as evidence, but often hold a certain weight with them. They're just not considered. It's not real.
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So your saying that no matter what people cant talk to spirits at all? With the board or no?
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I'm not going to say it's impossible to communicate with the beyond. It's extremely unlikely and Ouji boards have nothing to do with it. If you've ever met a phsycic that talks to the dead, they are frauds and horrible people who are taking advanatage of the distraught and desecrating the memories of their loved ones. But for me to say that in all the realm of human history and possibility, that some form of contact has never and will never happen, would be quite a declaration. But I have never (since 5 or 6) and will never fear a ghost. Not a single documented case ever, and finally the other realm reveals itself to ME, for possibly harmful reasons? Even if I get over my skeptisism, I'll feel lucky to be part of history.
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I dont think that all psychics are frauds. Thats pushing it a little bit. If people can channel the dead why couldnt a board? Some people claim to channel the dead by writing.
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It may be possible that someone, somewhere is phsycic. But I have never herd of this person and doubt I ever will.
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Youve never heard of a psychic person? Are you aware that everyone is a little psychic and that others are just in tune with it more? Im sure you know of lots of psychic people but that also depends on your definition of psychic.
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What are you basing this on? No one's psychic. People say they are and scam others out of money for it, but no one actually is.
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I'm basing this on people I know and studies Ive read. How do you know these people are psychic? Of course people are gonna try and scam money, its what the world revolves around. People are horrible but that doesnt mean you should discount everyone just because there are some who are fakes.
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*I’m basing this on people I know* The people you know that are psychic have scammed you. *and studies Ive read.* What studies?
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They havent scammed me. Like I said before everyone is psychic, just how much is the question. Ive read a bunch of studies on it. Ive read books and articles.
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Weydon, you are falling prey to that "no", "yes" and continue for infinity stuff. Steph says they are credible. You say they are not. Steph says they are credible. You say they are not. There is no convincing going on here, just a display of flaring nostrils in an attempt that one another comes to know of the others stance (or has it drilled into them). Weydon, if you think psychics are scams, and you have analysed and evaluated every psychic there is so as to affirm your conviction, then possibly you could stand by the assumption that all 'current' psychics are fakes. It is harder to prove that something does not exist, than that something does exist. So, if flaring nostrils continues, I am inclined to go with Steph, because if evidence is not involved, she is most likely correct. And Steph, it would be most helpful if you were to actually provide us with some of your findings concerning these 'books and articles' and what not.
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I don't need intensive studies to prove there ISN'T something. No studies could cohesively prove that, because of the nature of "Well, what if a three horned jackal/tiger/gorilla/fish/man DID exist, but no one's seen it!?". *because if evidence is not involved, she is most likely correct.* Prove to me the creature I described does not exist. I'll even lessen the burden for you: prove to me it doesn't exist in New Jersey. If you can't get any evidence, well...I'm inclined to believe it's real. And that there's 1000's of them! (cause you didn't prove there weren't thousands either) There has never been a real psychic anywhere that I know of. The idea that we're all psychic is ludicrous. Why wouldn't I know this? What in our brains have unnamed "books and articles" come across the doctors haven't yet? You may as well tell me that we all shoot laser beams out of our eyes a little bit. *Ive read a bunch of studies on it. Ive read books and articles.* I assumed as much. I don't know where else you would read studies besides books and articles. Which books, which articles?
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If you really want some references I can do that. Otherwise whats the point? Your going to believe what you want anyway no matter how strong I make my arguement.
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I really want some references. *Your going to believe what you want anyway no matter how strong I make my arguement.* Exactly how strong of an argument do you think you've been making? Your claiming to have encountered phsycics is just as strong as someone else's claim to having encountered Superman. You didn't even go so far as to explain what happened, but just that it definately did happen. If you know of groundbreaking studies that disprove general science and knowledge and show psychics EXIST, not even as a possibility, then I would love to see the sources. What's the point? What's the point of defending your stance against someone else? For one thing, philosophy is about debate--with yourself and with others. A debate for truth. For another, philosophy is about the spread of ideas and concepts. Were you to make a "strong argument" (not so well said and strongly asserted mind you, but one that provides logical or physical proof), I would change my opinion.
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What exactly do you think of when you think pyschic? Do you think of palm readers and tarot cards or do you think of things like detectives, mediums or ghost people? Yes it makes a difference because then I know what references to get. My experiences with pyschics are not quite so relevent. As far as the argument, yours could use some work as well. Whether you think people can be pyschics or not is not going to be changed by anything I say or how credible its made. I'll still make the argument anyway. While I'm finding information that says they do exist, find some that says they dont.
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*Yes it makes a difference because then I know what references to get.* How? You have proof of one or you have proof of both. I believe in neither, so supply what you have. *My experiences with pyschics are not quite so relevent.* Thank god you bought it up then. *Whether you think people can be pyschics or not is not going to be changed by anything I say or how credible its made.* On the contrary, the credibility makes all the difference. *While I’m finding information that says they do exist, find some that says they dont.* "I don’t need intensive studies to prove there ISN’T something. No studies could cohesively prove that, because of the nature of 'Well, what if a three horned jackal/tiger/gorilla/fish/man DID exist, but no one’s seen it!?'. Prove to me the creature I described does not exist. I’ll even lessen the burden for you: prove to me it doesn’t exist in New Jersey. If you can’t get any evidence, well…I’m inclined to believe it’s real. And that there’s 1000’s of them! (cause you didn’t prove there weren’t thousands either)"
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October 11, 2006
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Chutes and Ladders
AND Candyland. Don't forget Candyland.Weydon
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