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glass houses43% Voted for by Weydon, bob2314, Energizer Bunny, cosmosis, Kazrith. (10 total)
Truth is Islam is no better or worse than other religions and every thing you said about Islam could be said about Christianity. You see all religions have the same problem they are made by men. While Islam converted parts of three continents by the sword Christianity did the same thing to the whole world. Btw it’s not Islam that drives converts away from Christianity it’s zealots no offence intended
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How do you know?13% Voted for by Stella Cadente, bob2314, WAHRevolution.
There are as many Christians that do immoral things as Muslims. Why do you have to categorize people based on their religious belief?
JUST BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. IT MAY BE RIGHT FOR YOU, BUT NOT FOR THE REST.
And if you are an Islam-expert, then you have the right to give opinions like this. Christianity hasn't done anything for the world either
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Islam has done nothing for the world8% Voted for by Bless, Dwn.
right from the beggining. ishmael the forced birth is technicaly the father of islam ,his birth was a mistake . at no point in the bible did anything good come from disobeyin god. mohamed a rapist murderer and dictator who used the qu'ran ( a badly plagerised bible) to justify his evil acts .Islam is one of the many tools of the devil , apears to be peaceful and loving but deceives away from the true lord christ . I mean no offence but the truth is not always complementary
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I am always curious when I see a debate like thisHow many of us who would judge any religion have actually read and studied the basic text the religion was formed from in detail?8% Voted for by Violet Moodswing, Mairi-Alannah.
By detail, I don't mean sitting in front of another human that we expect to interpret things for us because we are too lazy to read it ourselves from cover to cover more than once and make an intelligent decision. -
A red herring argumentVoted for by asgrey.
It is true that the Old Testament contains violence but the fact is neither Judaism or Christianity were ORIGINALLY spread by violence, (The Crusades came later, whereas Mohamed actually spread the faith by violence).
The fact is, I agree there may be parts of Islam which are evil, but we cannot argue the point by suggesting terrorism, etc. because in the same way as the IRA are extreme and hypocritical followers of Christianity, these suicide groups etc. are extreme and hypocritical followers of Islam.
If you seek to criticise a religion, do exactly that - criticise the religion and not the followers.
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Islam and the Dark AgesVoted for by Dwn.
Unfortunately, Islam has adopted some of the more violent and irrational parts of the Old Testament which Christians have replaced with the New Testament. The Koran and Shania laws prescribe the death penalty for adultery, disrespectful sons and daughters, leaving Islam for another religion, criticizing Islam, and a number of minor offenses. Islam is an aggressive religion that, in the past, converted infidels with force (become a Muslim or die). Islam opposes the separation of religion and the state and, consequently, is opposed to secular democracy. Its extensive laws affect every area of a person’s life and it doesn’t tolerate change. Because of this, Islam is stuck in the dark ages and is incompatible with the 21st century. The increasing gap between the modern age and a dark age’s religion exasperates the feelings of alienation among Muslims.









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Kazrith
October 22, 2006
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Energizer Bunny
October 22, 2006
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Kazrith
np....I called myself agreeing with you. I believe all religions have this problem. No doubt, you are correct.October 25, 2006
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The sword?
I would like to know how Christians did the same thing to the whole world. And if you are going to come at me with the crusades or the Spanish inquisition you need a history lesson. I may as well go ahead and tell you. The crusade was started in 1095 to Combat Turkish Muslims that where killing people and burning down cities of those that didn’t convert by the sword. So it was in the defense of freedom for everyone to have a choice that the crusades where started. And then there is the Spanish Inquisition in 1478 this one is a bit of an ugly spot but the fact is that no Doctrine backed up these actions. Spain’s rulers in the latter part of the fifteenth century, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, believed their country would prosper only if it was truly Christian. Because the showed great devotion to Catholicism, they received the title Catholic Kings from the pope. In 1478 they asked the pope to establish the Inquisition in Spain themselves as Inquisitors. And from here they went on to throw everyone out of the country that had different Christian beliefs than they did and eventually Killing over it. But this continued until 1572 all over the world but it was not converting by the sword it was a war between to sections of the same religion. So to say that Christianity was converted by the sword is nothing but a blatant lie.bob2314
October 25, 2006
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Which do you prefer the rack or the sword?
All of Europe, Mexico, South America, the witch burnings, the crusades were more about a land grab than anything else, not to mention what the Catholics have done to the Jews in the past. In the words of Denial Patrick Moynihan you are entitled to your own opinion not to your own facts.bob2314
October 25, 2006
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Oh btw
I forgot the Byzantine wars and the protestant reformation. So when you get sick of killing Jews and Moslems you kill each other.January 4, 2007
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As long as man has existed
He has used religious beliefs to rally people into atrocities to suit his own agenda. The evil is in the hearts of the human, not in the religion itself.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.January 5, 2007
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so true
all religions had been altered and added to over time BY MAN so how can man accept facts from men just like them that say they are messengers of god. Well for one, i could say those people belong in an asylum. And second, if some person made an attempt to add thigns to the bible saying he is a messenger of god, he would be immediately sent to psychological help. But that didnt happen long ago, and therefore people believe them. Where as today, nobody would believe anybody. In the future i have a feeling those people will believe the people today just because they were people of the past and probably were messengers of god and what not. its all funny, ammusing...and interesting as to how stupid people are today.bob2314
January 5, 2007
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SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING: BOB 2314 WILL NOW ATTEMPT TO GIVE HIS OPINION ON LIFE THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING. SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO… DO IT! IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT BOB 2314 DON’T KNOW @#!$. ANY ATTEMPT FOLLOW HIS ADVICE COULD LEAD TO YOU WRITING LETTERS HOME IN CRAYON.In order to understand this post you have to know what was going on at the time. This post was in response to another post “is he satin” which was first added after the Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon.
Tempers ran a little high in that post and in this one. One poster had the gall to call ME wrong. My post was an attempt not only to prove him wrong but to rub his nose in it. It seems on reflection I may have a teeny tiny temper too. My views on religion are this: it is false, it is a waste of time And it will disappoint you 9 times out of 10. Now having said that I also conceder myself a Christian. A contradiction! I don’t think so. You see I looked around at all the pain and suffering that religion has caused through the years and I have come to the conclusion that this can’t be God’s plan. So I have formed my own religion of two.
Of which I AM THE JUNIOR PARTNER.
sometimes you have to exit a topic then reenter to see your comment. lol we have all done this
I saw 24 comments on one of my posts and I thought I was going to be tarred and feathered lol.
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