I couldn’t disagree more with energizer. this is a perfectly good topic. It’s the general brake down of civility that’s repetitive. Now how to avoid this. I can’t speak for any other member nor do I wish to undercut the authority of the moderators so I will place this restriction only on myself. For the purpose of this one thread I will answer question and comments from Kay Lynn Kie only. You want this topic discussed fine but you don’t get to sit on the sideline and watch me perform you must participate.In the past this topic has been used by dishonest people to make the homosexuals and Christians fight on command. I am in no way assigning this motive to you! Or else I would not participate.

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In order to put my words in the proper context you must know who I am . I am a bisexual man of 43 with an estranged wife and daughter who I love dearly. Now to the questions you posted. 1. To me marriage is a spiritual union between two people. 2. In its most basic form it was probably two people getting together for protection and procreation . It wouldn’t have taken long for some clan chief or church leader to see that this is a wonderful way to control the freedom of the population thus strengthening this leaders power. In my opinion the church would see this as a supply of new faithful to replace the old. The state would see this as an unending supply of frontline solders. Now where does love fit into this? It doesn’t at least in the view of the state it is interested only in the byproducts of love not in the emotion. The church is interested in the emotion only as a means to an end that being its solidification of power and its stability into the future. The homosexual does not fit into either view because the homosexual does not procreate thus it should not be encouraged . 3&4. Homosexual marriage or civil unions should happen because it is a question of freedom. Shouldn’t I get to decide who I associate with,who I love, who I live with and yes who I have sex with? Do I really have freedom if I can not make these decisions on my own?

when ppl think of marriage they think of religion and so that is why gays have such a problem they dont put down religion but because of our norm of thinking of marriage as religion they put there heads in. all that gays want is the social union between to ppl that believe themselves to be in love... 50% divorce rat remember. the icometax stuff and all the othe govt and society stuff we get for being married. personally i dont see why not... seperation of church and state. they are not asking marriage thats religious they are asking for a social union. and you dont have to do anything for or against them they just want some rights. that is the only missing information that ppl seem to forget in other diolouges but i still agree with EB topic has been discussed throughly no need for repition every week.

I have no opinion. Tell me yours.