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immegration from the other side

im tired of seeing people fighting for things without knowing why
im tired of seeing these rich people with just one or two children
all they are doing is harming others with social security
they are the ones that can afford having more kids, why dont they?
if it wasnt for the 684 billion dollars put in by illegal immagrant
that dont ever get them back
social security would have died years ago

there are only four solutions to social security
or more young people appear that outnumber the old
(if people start having atleast three children on average per parents)
or if we have less people getting social security
or we have more illegal immegrants
or more funds that would have gone to other things

there are no other solutions to social security

we are in tha land of freedom
but boy dont we want any illegal immegrants taking my job
cause i wanted to do hard manual labor
i wanted to pick the trash, build houses, build roads,
paint houses, put the roof on the houses, mow the lawn,
work at fast food restourants, bag groceries
these are the things i wanted to do
come on we know better than that

you get some americans building a house
work only 8 hours, insurance, pay must be this
these put the cost of the house higher

you get some illegals building a house
work from morning till night without insurance
the more houses done the more i get paid

with illegals you have to pay them less and
work faster than your average american
means chapers houses faster
is that not good
plus they all pay taxes...
its is imposible to not pay taxes

i used to be there illegaly and worked also
(right now i had to leave the country and miss my daughters birth
just so that i would be able to get a job, a car, medecine
necessities for me, my to be wife, and my daughter)
got paid 80 bucks a day in painting houses
worked from 7 AM till 7 PM
i got paid, i personally didnt pay taxes
but that doesnt mean taxes werent paid for me

the guy in charge was legal so he gets a single large check
he then spreads the money among his workers
what does this mean
it means that more taxes were paid from that
than if they all got paid individually
tax would have been like 100 bucks for 600 dollas
instead its 1500 bucks from 4500 you do the math

it suprises me how many people just dont see that
everthing here is good for america
they cannot send all there money to where ever they are from
they have to live somewhere, eat, pay gas, car payments, car insurance

america prospers from illegals and thats a simple economic truth
cheap labor force, more buyers, more willing workers, happier workers
but thats going to change...
house prices are going to rise among other things
that is what america is doing
and dont want to hear it any other way

i have been living in mexico now for 6 months
i can tell you personally there isnt much work here
your money does not last long...
you work for 300 pesos a day lets just say
food for me, two cousins, aunt and uncle was 100 pesos
for dinner, and we were making hotdogs
i know why they leave... economy here is not good
you cant suport a family easily here
so they have to go to the good old america
and the americans profit out of it

by the way that is my poem "america"
  • what do you think should happen?
    my dad is an illegal immegrant still linving in the US. he has lived there since he was 20 and he is close to 45 now. in 1988 they were making all the illagals legal so my dad got a lawyer that also happens to screw him over and run away, but then got caught. my dad ofcourse because of that missed his chance to become legal. if it wasnt for that i wouldnt have to leave the country and miss my daughter`s birth. i have yet to see her and she is a little over two months old. i dont see how anybody cannot be on the other side- my ap govt teacher. especially to kick them out. you dont kick out a bunch of cheap labor force that is more willing to work than the evarage american, and consumers... otherwise known as illagals and their families because thats just bad economics. everyone is suffering from this. the illegals that come here for money, the US, and the families of the illegals that cannot sustain themselves in the economies of their own countries, let alone the curreption both in the police and in politics. these are not places you want to be in need.
    Voted for by pnktrky.
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  • Once again, Pheh.
    People have one or two children even if they're rich because not every one wants the Dilly Sextuplets. If I was a cajillionaire, I wouldn't want five kids. I'd stick to one or two. When I die, my money will go to my responsible children who would invest it, pass it down, and insure the well-being of thier children and the generations to come. Rich people don't always worry about us plecebians because, believe it or not, a lot of them want to insure thier future relatives in these rocky 'times' we are facing.

    The rest of us Americans are just going to work hard and make a living. The way Nature intended.

    And as someone once told me: The rich have thier ice in the summer, and the poor have theirs in the winter.

    Either we're all poor, or that means the rich go to florida for the winter and come back to the New England territory for the summer. I don't know, oh well.

    Point is, we just need to get off our lazy duffs and get back to work.
    Voted for by Oral Fixation.
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  • I thought that this was interesting
    Someone e-mailed this to me today. What do you think about this?

    SUGGESTED NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS



    THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BILINGUAL PROGRAMS IN THE SCHOOLS.
    ***************
    THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BALLOTS FOR ELECTIONS.
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    ALL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN OUR LANGUAGE.
    ***************
    FOREIGNERS WILL NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE NO MATTER HOW LONG THEY ARE HERE.
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    FOREIGNERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD POLITICAL OFFICE.
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    FOREIGNERS WILL NOT BE A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS.
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    NO WELFARE, NO FOOD STAMPS, NO HEALTH CARE OR OTHER GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.
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    FOREIGNERS CAN INVEST IN THIS COUNTRY BUT IT MUST BE AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO 40,000 TIMES THE DAILY MINIMUM WAGE.
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    IF FOREIGNERS DO COME AND WANT TO BUY LAND, THAT WILL BE OKAY. BUT OPTIONS WILL BE RESTRICTED...
    YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED WATERFRONT PROPERTY. THAT IS RESERVED FOR CITIZENS NATURALLY BORN INTO THIS COUNTRY.
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    FOREIGNERS MAY NOT PROTEST; NO DEMONSTRATIONS; NO WAVING A FOREIGN FLAG; NO POLITICAL ORGANIZING; NO BAD-MOUTHING OUR PRESIDENT OR HIS POLICIES. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE SENT HOME.
    *************
    IF YOU DO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE HUNTED DOWN AND SENT STRAIGHT TO JAIL.
    ****************
    TOO HARSH, YOU SAY?
    The above laws happen to be the Immigration Laws of:
    "MEXICO!"
    Voted for by mudgod.
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  • If you want to settle in the US
    First; DO IT LEGALLY! I'm sick of illegals sneaking in and expecting to get everything just handed to them. If you want to come here, and live a better life, then at least have the decency to respect our laws, and that includes immigration laws.

    second; LEARN ENGLISH, PENDEJO! that's what we speak here, not Spanish, not French, not Russian, Italian, Chinese, Hmong, or Hottentot. We should not heve to make or schools or government offices bi-lingual to accomidate your gibberish. You should learn ours.

    third; Stop underbidding Americans. Just because you're used to scraping by on table scraps, doesn't mean we want to. You are your own worst problem. You offer to to labor jobs for less than minimum wage, something that is illegal for Americans to do. then you whine that you don't get paid enough. Well WAAAAAHHH!! If you had bid the job legally instead of offering to do it for a dollar an hour, you would have gotten better paid, assuming you would have gotten the job at all, having to compete with a "lazy" American.

    Fourth; Just because you have a cousin Consuelo in Michuacan, doesn't mean you have to bring him here.

    Fifth; Lay off the Jose Cuervo. Yes i know it's easier to get in the US than in Mexico, but that doen't mean you need to for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

    Sixth; Stop calling us Gringos, and we'll stop calling you Spics. Racism works both ways. if you don't like it done to you, don't do it to us.


    Voted for by NeferMaatNetjer.
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