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Medicalise not Criminalise...

• Seems reasonable to me

  I also think that just because drugs are no longer a criminal offence, that people wont just rush out to use them all. The rebellious 'forbidden fruit' factor to drugs will be gone and both the users and society as a whole will be more secure and safe.
  
  I mean just because you were allowed to use Heroin, would you go out and do it?

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    Applehead
    December 18, 2006
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    No I've watched trainspotting too many times ha ha. No, sorry. Huhum.... How do you propose hard drugs be supplied. Over the counter at the local corner shop maybe? As with alcohol kids will always find some numpty to buy it for them.
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      mudgod
      December 18, 2006
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      People amaze me. Because they don't want to deal with the aggrevation of catching and prosecuting criminals, they want to find a way around it or make it legal. So that everyone can do what's right in their own minds.
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    Oral Fixation
    December 18, 2006
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    Woa, woa, wait...

    Is this in the UK or something, because I've yet to see people strolling down the street with a joint hanging off thier lips over here in the good ol' USA.
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    bob2314
    December 19, 2006
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    we need to narrow our focus pot should be leagl
    the other stuff should be illeagl as hell
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    petethemeat
    December 21, 2006
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    I can understand your viewpoint bob, that used to be mine...
    
    But my reasons on medicalising hard drugs are different to the reasons i believe pot should be legal.
    
    Pot should be legal because it is effectively harmless. Hard drugs should be legalised for being harmful. Sounds counter-intuitive but legalising these drugs and providing them for addicts would practicly stop all crime associated with them.
    
    Drug addiction is defined as a disease, and jail or even forced treatment is most of the time ineffective.
    
    Prohibition does not cut down on usage, and adds a multitude of problems. People mistakenly believe that prohibition is active in its fight against drugs, all it does is sweep the problem under the carpet without dealing with the real reasons people turn to drugs.
    
    In a personal sense it would make no difference to me if drugs were legalised (except pot) but society as a whole, I believe, would benefit.
    
    Applehead, legal regulation would do more to prevent drugs getting into the hands of kids, because, true no regulation is foolproof, but is far better than leaving them in the hands of the dealers who do not care what age the buyer is.
    
    Drugs would also not be cut with hazardous substances and fewer overdoses will occur.
    
    Legalisation is not saying 'do drugs they are good for you' it is an attempt at minimising the damage they can do, which no matter how harsh the penalties people will continue using.
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    Hekate
    December 30, 2006
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    Why bring out only one country? I think all together this problem is worldwide.
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    petethemeat
    January 2, 2007
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    I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say Kamala? If you are saying why don't we utilise this policy worldwide, then I definitely agree with you as i believe this policy would be totally effective if the whole world used it, however i understand that some countries would have more difficulty than others at incorporating this policy.
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    petethemeat
    January 6, 2007
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  • MuslimMusician
    April 4, 2007
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    Experience

    There are many already legal drugs in the US. Many "mind expanding" drugs are (IMHO) better than marijuana/LSD/PCP (I used to be a big druggie before my reversion. Clean for 3 years and counting). An excellent example (unless you're in Louisiana, Delaware, or a few other states) is Salvia divinorum, aka Sally D., Ska Maria Pastora, Salvia, etc. It is a nice experience, short lasting, and has no reason to be illegal.
    
    
    Similar with morning glory seeds (contain LSA, precursor to LSD, and ARE a Table I precursor), nutmeg (don't do this one. It's not fun to be completely gone for 24- 36 hours at a time), parsley, dill, psilocybe mushrooms, California poppy, blue lotus, etc.
    
    Oh, and the legal jargon. I do not promote the use of any substance to be taken for any purpose into human consumption. I do not condone their use for hallucinogenic properties, yadda, yadda, etc.
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    petethemeat
    April 5, 2007
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    Some interesting info MM, but my desire to see drugs legalised actually has very little to do with 'leave me alone to get wasted'. I believe that Legalising Drugs on a varied scale (Cannabis, MDMA available for 18+ in shops, Heroin and Cocaine prescription for example) would benefit society on a great many levels both for the User and society as a whole.
    
    I could go out today and speedball till the cows come home, and the chances of me being caught are minute, however I do not, and it is the very reason that they are illegal that I can overdose, as I am unaware of the strength or purity of the drugs. Regulating Drugs properly (not leaving them in the hands of the black market) would stop 99% of overdoses from ever-occuring.
    
    There is some good information at this site www.tdpf.org.uk (Transform Drug Policy Federation)

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