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TimeWhat I don't see in the bible is whats its trying to convey and how its changed over time... The bible written and compiled a few hundred years after Christs birth, was intended at that time to give a literal description of what happened and whats happening. For example people at Jesus's time, actually thought that the world was made in 7 days. Earth was there before the universe, we were all created, not evolved and demons walked the earth etc etc. Thats fine I can understand that, 2000+ years ago people would be primitive enough to believe it. As the human race evolves and collects more and more knowledge of the world around us, physics, medicine and biology. We still cling to these primitive ideas constructed by primitive minds... We start not believing the bible literally and start making up conclusions that the bible is actually metaphors for what has really happened, as we advance more more complex metaphors arise in till the whole bibles story is completely distorted from its original meaning and there is no ground for people to challenge it against! Sorry for some errors in dates etc as I am only 13.Voted for by Silhouette93.
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Oral Fixation
January 16, 2007
Well writen.
Good job! As I'm always saying...The religion and Bible crap today is for maintaining order in developing countries, keeping hysteria at bay in the developed ones, and to get kids to stop risky things like having sex, shooting people, and running with scissors.August 17, 2007
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pnktrky
January 16, 2007
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frndofyaweh
January 18, 2007
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Conveys deep meanings also
The Bible conveys this; It is a guide book to the ultimate answers to all things. It is The Guide Book to our escape from curses, that we caused.It is The Guide Book to eternal life and love, in a family enviroment knowns as, Heaven On Earth.
The Bible is completely full of scientific data. Much of it far too complex to be written in intentionally.
We call this the signature of God and it is identifiable throughout the Bibles chapters and stories.
Only the Spirit that knows God, will identify with the signature of Him also.
"They have eyes, but cannot see, they have ears but cannot hear me."-Jesus-
PRIMITIVE? I highly doubt that. Supersticious maybe, but far more educated than history has given them credit for.
Much of the Bible was documented 4000 years ago, I believe. The Gospels and Pauls letters, that comprise the larger part of the New Testement, are the part written 2000 years ago.
The text written in 4000 year old Hebrew, is still accurate to the modern English Bible today.
Metaphors? I can do without them and still explain every single word of The Word and show you intricate meanings behind every verse, that are timeless in their nature and purpose.
No other book in history can do this miracle. The Bible is then called, The Living Word, as it never ceases to have the answers, no matter what era you lived in.
January 19, 2007
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say what
ok you saidquote;
What I don't see in the bible is whats its trying to convey and how its changed over time... The bible written and compiled a few hundred years after Christs birth, end quote
This statement is completely and totally false the Gospels are referred to in other books of the Bible and many of those Books like the letters of Paul and Acts predate AD 70 I will not get into the explanation but you need to do some research.
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we were all created, not evolved and demons walked the earth etc etc. end quote;
can you prove that humans were not created or that we evolved? No you can't You also can not prove that any other animal evolved from another causing a new species.
As for the Demons again is there any proof for or against?
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We still cling to these primitive ideas constructed by primitive minds... end quote
are you speaking of the theory (idea) of evolution?
February 20, 2007
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The Artist
as any artist will attest to, all works take time and study to perfect. There are always sketches, renderings, trial and error. God being the ultimate artist I guess all this talk goes to show we are still a work in progress.March 10, 2007
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God isn't dumb
Look at all creation! It all fits perfectly! EVen after a catastrophic flood! (The geological columb proves that there was once a catastrophic flood that laid down sediments all across the world, and that there was little or no time in between when they were laid down, because there would be some erosional marks in between the layers, but there aren't any) The accounts of Jesus were written only a few years after his death. Leaving thousands of eye witnesses time to correct all the mistakes! The bible is indeed flawless. But when the bible was translated, all the people that translated it all had the excast same translation word for word. People call that a miracle, nonbelievers call it chance.And cavemen aren't "primitive", as you say. They had LARGER brains than we had. Enough muscle to thrown an NFL linebacker over the feild goal. extensive knowledge of medicine. Made beautiful paintings. And they had an extensive knowledge over the elements. (One proof of this is the stones the pyramids are made of, it was a chemically altered rock that would have been created on the pyramid, not pulled up the pyramid and placed there)
Plus cavemen are too often called "primitive". If your skeletal structure were to continue to grow for 500-800 years, some bones would grow faster than others, giving you the EXSACT same skeletal structure as a "caveman". If you lived 800 years, it wouldn't be nice being called a caveman. (Not only that, the people mentioned in the Bible before the flood lived to be 900 years old) (And it is genetically accurate that a huge reduction of the population would cause people to die a lot younger) (A genetic mutation that would cause people to live a little bit younger would rapidly multiply in inbreeding conditions ,witch wouldn't be bad as the number of genetic mutations in the whole human population was still tiny)
Also, the bible is a book of hope but whatever the Bible touches on science is ALWAYS accurate.
The bible says the lord "hangeth the earth upon nothing". People once thought the earth floated on water, but it indeed "hangs in space" unop nothing.
The bible says the earth is round. It says "God drew a circular horizon around the waters".
The bible says there were GIANTS back then, of corse, people today would laugh, but there are 12-13 FT skeletons found all around the world, with tools that could only be used by giants.
The bible says there was a world wide flood. And there is evidence for a world wide flood. All the rock layers in the world are only "in the correct order" in 15% of the earth. But the conditions of a flood would cause the earth layers to not be "in the correct order" all across the earth. Plus the rock layers look EXSACTLY as theyw ould if a global flood would erode sediments and lay them down underwater. And guess why it looks exsactly like that? Because it did happen! "science" says that hte rock layers are "millions of years old" but that is impossible as if they were millions of years old, there would be ENORMOUS amouns of erosion between the layers in about 25-50 millions years between them laying down. But we DONT SEE ANY EROSION! JUST LIKE WE WOULD IN A GLOBAL FLOOD! But do they teach you this in textbooks? no, of corse not, because God forbid, the Bible would be right!
Thus we can say that all the animals that lived "millions of years old" actually coexsisted with men. And we see this. There are fossilized human footprints right next to dinosaur footprints. There are cavepaintings of dinosaurs. Obviously made far after "dinosaurs were extint", unless they were there to draw them. There are ruins with animal carvings on the wall dated 1200 AC, were you see a lot of animals we see today, with a stegasaurus with all the other animals. This is satisfactory evidence that the people who created the monuments saw a stegasaurus living with other animals. There was unfossilized and freah "prehistoric mamal" bones in australia. When the bones were taken to the aborigines, one of them showed his scars and told the translator the it was caused by what "science" would say was a prehisotirc animal. How stupid do evolutionists take us for?
We find radioactive carbon in diamonds. If diamonds did take "millions of years to form" there should be no more radioactive carbon as it all decayse in 6000 years. But we find it in diamons, coal, and oil. So it has to form quickly.
The bible says that we all descended from one woman 6,000 years ago. And our mitochondrea proves that we all decended from one ancestral female 6,000 years ago. Because mutations cause mitochondrea to change, and this rate of mutation is far to fast to account for millions of years. That is what evolutionists try to tell us. But oh well. They can lie and lie and lie, because they have to lie and lie and lie. Because if a lie is told long enough, people will believe it.
March 10, 2007
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And cavemen aren't "primitive", as you say. They had LARGER brains than we had. Enough muscle to thrown an NFL linebacker over the feild goal. extensive knowledge of medicine. Made beautiful paintings. And they had an extensive knowledge over the elements. (One proof of this is the stones the pyramids are made of, it was a chemically altered rock that would have been created on the pyramid, not pulled up the pyramid and placed there)
Plus cavemen are too often called "primitive". If your skeletal structure were to continue to grow for 500-800 years, some bones would grow faster than others, giving you the EXSACT same skeletal structure as a "caveman". If you lived 800 years, it wouldn't be nice being called a caveman. (Not only that, the people mentioned in the Bible before the flood lived to be 900 years old) (And it is genetically accurate that a huge reduction of the population would cause people to die a lot younger) (A genetic mutation that would cause people to live a little bit younger would rapidly multiply in inbreeding conditions ,witch wouldn't be bad as the number of genetic mutations in the whole human population was still tiny)
Also, the bible is a book of hope but whatever the Bible touches on science is ALWAYS accurate.
The bible says the lord "hangeth the earth upon nothing". People once thought the earth floated on water, but it indeed "hangs in space" unop nothing.
The bible says the earth is round. It says "God drew a circular horizon around the waters".
The bible says there were GIANTS back then, of corse, people today would laugh, but there are 12-13 FT skeletons found all around the world, with tools that could only be used by giants.
The bible says there was a world wide flood. And there is evidence for a world wide flood. All the rock layers in the world are only "in the correct order" in 15% of the earth. But the conditions of a flood would cause the earth layers to not be "in the correct order" all across the earth. Plus the rock layers look EXSACTLY as theyw ould if a global flood would erode sediments and lay them down underwater. And guess why it looks exsactly like that? Because it did happen! "science" says that hte rock layers are "millions of years old" but that is impossible as if they were millions of years old, there would be ENORMOUS amouns of erosion between the layers in about 25-50 millions years between them laying down. But we DONT SEE ANY EROSION! JUST LIKE WE WOULD IN A GLOBAL FLOOD! But do they teach you this in textbooks? no, of corse not, because God forbid, the Bible would be right!
Thus we can say that all the animals that lived "millions of years old" actually coexsisted with men. And we see this. There are fossilized human footprints right next to dinosaur footprints. There are cavepaintings of dinosaurs. Obviously made far after "dinosaurs were extint", unless they were there to draw them. There are ruins with animal carvings on the wall dated 1200 AC, were you see a lot of animals we see today, with a stegasaurus with all the other animals. This is satisfactory evidence that the people who created the monuments saw a stegasaurus living with other animals. There was unfossilized and freah "prehistoric mamal" bones in australia. When the bones were taken to the aborigines, one of them showed his scars and told the translator the it was caused by what "science" would say was a prehisotirc animal. How stupid do evolutionists take us for?
We find radioactive carbon in diamonds. If diamonds did take "millions of years to form" there should be no more radioactive carbon as it all decayse in 6000 years. But we find it in diamons, coal, and oil. So it has to form quickly.
The bible says that we all descended from one woman 6,000 years ago. And our mitochondrea proves that we all decended from one ancestral female 6,000 years ago. Because mutations cause mitochondrea to change, and this rate of mutation is far to fast to account for millions of years. That is what evolutionists try to tell us. But oh well. They can lie and lie and lie, because they have to lie and lie and lie. Because if a lie is told long enough, people will believe it.
March 10, 2007
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And were you there when the earth was made? Was human alive today there when the earth was forming? You simply believe that the earth is billions of years old. The bible teaches the earth was made in 6 days (not 7). We also just believe the earth was made in 6 days, just as much as you believe the earth is billions of years old. But the science is on our side. We have arguments like The absence of enough sediment on the ocean floor, the sun's slowly increaing heat (the earth would be too cold for life to "begin" a few million years ago), the laws of chance, biogenesis, and entropy are on our side. evolution has no laws on it's side. The impossibility for all the right aminoacids to be created to start the first life on earth. The absolute improbality of all the amino acids creating the first DNA to be left handed. As it would take at least 100,000 base pairs (the simplest lifeform today has 500,000 base pairs), the odds of flipping a coin 100,000 times and landing on heads is absolutely improbable, and all the aminoacids would eventually rebreak down into basic chemicals before there would be enough time to even think about a fully functional DNA starting.
believe what you want to. as you have your faith in primordial soup, were I have my faith in an omnipotent God who dies for me, and you.
August 17, 2007
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Davidwright
The bible is a book, allbeit a good book, but not the only one. Many who believe in the literal translation of the bible and promote the idea of a living God and creationism (intelligent design as it's referred to in todays world) do so at the expense of scientific discovery. Some forms of life evolve and others donnot ie. lizards and fish. I doubt we'll ever know the truth. I personally respect the individuals right to believe whatever they choose. After all this a free society.Please register or login to comment! It's totally free