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Societal reality vs Actual Reality, and the problem

Actual reality is everything that is happening in this world, actual reality could be any path, and it has many outcomes. One outcome of actual reality is societal reality. That is the reality of organized societies and the paths within them. Societal reality beholds all the configurations and evolutions of mankind and is built around the corruptions of human nature, and there are benefits. Within each section of reality holds standards of living and different levels of normality. It is the organization of man, but nonetheless we are still individuals who have the ability to choose our own fate. Theres a problem though. Once raised within societal reality, and every human is, you are subject to following those standards and understand the levels of normality and follow the paths that every other human within societal reality is subject to following. The thing is though, people misunderstand and misintrepret actual reality to be their own reality (that being societal reality). And if you choose not to follow those standards and be a real individual trying to understand actual reality you are somehow either crazy, ignorant, dumb, typical teenager, rebellious, misunderstanding, "jerk", etc. So whats bad about understanding things for yourself and living with your own morals? Maybe it will be hard, but that is because people stuck within societal reality are always not very accepting to outsiders. I can understand harmful outsiders who only try to harm people within society, but whats wrong with peaceful outsiders who only look towards peace and no destruction, and try to escape the corruptions of the inside world. The people within societal reality make it hard for others. They make it stressful because its something different, when really its still within actual reality. But understand that there is nothing wrong with societal reality and belonging to it, because thats is where the majority is, they are all following those patterns for benefits of survival and have it easier to get to goals that are created within societal reality. I have no problem with it, the problem is though that they have a problem with me, or any other outsider. There is no reason to have a problem and make it hard for me and not accept any of my philosphies and morals if they cause no harm towards anyone. Im ridiculed, im hated, im looked down upon by many peers and my parents because they misunderstand and misintrepret reality. There are friends and parents and family friends who do understand though, and i respect them and they respect me. So not everyone is all bad, nor is societal reality bad. The bad thing is the whole thing together looking at anything outside societal reality as bad. It is hard for me to live for now, because i am overwhealmed with the stress to fit in and to fit is the means of being agressive and following certain social patterns which for the most part go against my morals and philosophies. Another thing is that i want to be respected as a person, not by my achievements in this societal reality. Because as a person i still have character, and i still have understandable reasons for why i dont wish to follow the paths of every other human within societal reality. I want to discover actual reality, i want to explore it. I want to live as an individual, not a sheep nor wolf. So tell me, what is wrong with that?
  • Continue the journey...
    Keep on with your quest of findng actual reality. Dont let others hold you back with the closed minded ridicule they throw at you. Individuality is a very special ability every single one of us has. Sadly many throw it out in order to "fit in" with the whole social flow crap. Rebel agianst this disease known as sociality but know your limits. The reality is most people on this planet are brainwashed sheep and will follow the crowd. Whatever happens just be yourself.
    44%  Voted for by dollar, Southern Twilight, MindsEye, opera ghostess.
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  • Forget "fitting in".
    And forget wanting to be respected by those who may want you to fit in. One can't "fit in" and be an individual. Self respect may be telling others that you are not interested in fitting in with them. If they can't respect that then it is they that don't have self respect. F**k them.
    33%  Voted for by grant, Southern Twilight, opera ghostess.
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  • There Shouldn't Be a 'Verses'
    You know ... I think that there is a misunderstanding.

    I am not at an opposing view point; however, I one who lived on the streets for nearly 5 years of my life, has spacial experience with society verses myself. I am in agreement that there are flaws in society and it's reality, but ... so are there faults within ourselves and our own reality.

    I am an individual within society and there are things I don't agree with, or am sometimes forced into having to take part of that I don't want to take part in, but I, like everyone else has to deal with that individuality.

    My point is, is that there shouldn't be a problem or a 'Versus". There should be balance, though hard, can be achieved if we stop battling forces that really don't have control over us.

    I do not believe that 'Societal Reality' Is "the configurations and evolutions of mankind and is built around the corruptions of human nature" (which is stated above). Social reality was built as a balance to provide protection to those around that live together, whom commune together. Without a societal view point , no-one who lives together in a society of individuals, wouldn't get along, wouldn't agree, or make decisions on what should happen with difficulties on individuality and likes or dislike of those individuals. With out society rule or regulation and the way they should be, we wouldn't get along quite well, nor would we be good together, it would just be everyone out for them self, and this is the main fault we have in a mind frame of our 'own reality'.

    There are too many people within both realities who don't think about others though, and that can be a serious down fall. The corruption talked about above, was developed by individuals, and those individuals an both realities are the ones making it difficult for others to live in society, whether it is a society of homelessness, government, religion, and so on ...

    Stop battling, because individuality is what makes up society. Stop those individuals who like to control, or use a societal systems for their advantage. Same to those individuals who are trying so hard to fight a war that doesn't need to exist,and stay out of any system, because in fighting, you create a system that is corrupt.

    As Opera Ghostess said above "One can't "fit in" and be an individual" IS NOT TRUE ... because if the individual Forgot about themselves for one minute and became open minded enough to others feelings and needs and wants, regardless if we as individuals, don't agree.

    There is nothing wrong with "Actual reality" Because the are made up by our individuality to meet and give respect to those who want or need curtain avenues of living.

    A system can't think ... a system can't control ... a system doesn't make up who we are.

    In agreement to the above topic: We make up the systems, It's us as individuals that make a system seem wrong or right.
    22%  Voted for by trytothink, The Raiden.
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