Pro-lifers are biased toward innocence. What can be more innocent than a baby's baby's baby? Why is a starving African baby less of value than a baby in the womb? Whose life is more valuable? If your class was hijacked by a deranged man and he said half of you could leave and stay alive, but half of you would have to stay to die with him. How would you go about who would stay behind? What criteria would you use?
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Don't limit the IS.
Everyone is inviolate. Everyone has the right to exist and everyone chooses to or not to. Period. End of discussion. Nothing is "thrust" upon anyone. Everyone carefully choses their experience including suffering. In fact, I'd wager that no one knows better than a starving little boy or girl the exquisite taste of a stale crust of bread. There is no good or bad experience. It just IS - and it makes you who you are. This is the why every individual is so unique. They are the gestalt of their life experiences.
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Soifwe Passedwest.
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Not sure what the first part means but...
well, lets see... i personally would say all children off the bus and hope its even. if no children, women off. if just men, volenteers.
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Soifwe Passedwest
March 1, 2007
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pnktrky
March 2, 2007
s0v13t
March 6, 2007
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I did choose to exist
I earnestly believe that I chose my existence.Nathan Explosion
March 7, 2007
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"soviet"
That is the biggest bunch of Bu|_|_5h17 I've ever heard. Things are thrust on to people all the time, the most obvious example being RAPE. You show a blatent lack of any grasp of reality. The entire suggestion that nothing is thrust upon anyone is that most absurd thing I think I've heard yet, what have you never gone outside. The FACT is YOU only choose to ACCEPT YOUR EXISTENCE your only choice is the fight, if someone stronger chooses to exist over you his will shall be thrust upon you.Nathan Explosion
March 7, 2007
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Lives being of "equal value" the right of a person to life and the value of their life are to completely different things. For instance if I had to choose between your life and a 10-year old childs, I would kill you with my bare hands if I needed to. Reasoning I CHOOSE to place more value in the child potential controbution to that of what the adult has already done. The only way I would spare an adult's life and choose a child to die would be if the adults death would directly harm multiple children.pnktrky
March 9, 2007
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Xelgaroth
March 26, 2007
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ummmmmmm
I don't think so soifwe. What kind of life does one lead when all of our experiences are meaningless and devoid of depth?There is no good or bad experience. It just IS
So we're just meaningless dumb little sheep without any point? All of our experiences as individuals are worth nothing to anyone else because it's only a good or bad thing to US personally? So we are masses wrought from chaos, forged by the smiths of the cosmos? Why would we need anything, our own very lives, when they are nothing but a vacant pool of random worthless experiences that merely ARE because they ARE, and have no depth or contrast to one another? There are good things that happen to us and bad things that happen to us. How you react and respond to them is important. You can choose to be optimistic or pessimistic, happy or sad about them, and depending on the circumstances, one situation can cause you to involuntarily gravitate toward one emotion over the other. If you were told right now that a close friend or relative of yours had just died, how can you just CHOOSE to be happy? It can't just BE for the sake of being. Circumstances dictate your emotions. You have control over the DEGREE to which these emotions shall affect you, but the emotions themselves remain all the same.
Case in point the little boy/girl in Africa. The bread is always good to almost everyone, but only the starving child perceives it to be his saving grace. Others see the bread and they think "good" but only the child thinks, "lifeline". The bread remains to be good, but the degrees to which people perceive its goodness are contrasted against each other. Sometimes a perception paradox of sorts forms when you have two greatly different perceptions of something. Two people witness a murder, a homocidal psychopath and a pastor. The psychopath thinks, "amusing" and the pastor thinks "heinous". The murder is still bad, but the two people's perceptions of the event are simply vastly in contrast. This tends to give the illusory effect that all IS but devoid of depth or meaning.
Two people are looking at a rabbit. One views it from behind, one from the front. They both see it in different ways, but the rabbit remains to be a rabbit. Perception is not reality, reality is perception.
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