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this is the way it works
put it this way, its like we are trying to make up for all those years they werent equal by making them more than equal. it is the same with the handicapped, the natives, african americans ect ect.
right now, the worst thing you can be is a white male (excluding homosexuality and whatnot) when it comes to getting jobs.
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Voted for by Kazrith, Applehead.
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Women Rights Activists, make up your mind!
am I the only one that doesn't see that women demand equality in the work place, social environments, and pretty much everything. Yet they want special treatment..i.e.(these are small unoffensive examples) footlocker has men and women shoes, but women also get a dedicated womans footlocker. women expect men to help out with kitchen chores such as cooking and dishes but expect men to be the ones to take the trash out. women get to play in the world poker tour but also get there own womens world poker tour (no mens only poker tour). equality goes both ways..if woman want equality in ways that benefit them then they better be ready to face the consequences of equality in ways that are negative towards them
Voted for by qwestman.
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Women didn't make a protest for Women's Footlocker. The retailers decided, rather accurately, that they would make more money by splitting it. The quantity of primarily male oriented apparel in your average Foot Locker sells very well. If they were to eliminate half of it to make it half women's and half men's, they'd be losing profit. If they make one primarily for women, and keep the original, they'll double their profit. Do you have the same problem with Gap Kids? Is Gap being unfairly ageist by segregating their clothes and giving kids special treatment? Or is it just wise business sense?
"women expect men to help out with kitchen chores such as cooking and dishes but expect men to be the ones to take the trash out."
? Not necessarily. I go by a "cook doesn't clean" rule, and when it's take-out everyone cleans their own mess. But I suppose in the 1950's it was a given that only women worked in the kitchen and complained about the men--just kicking off their loafers and smoking their pipes with the paper rather than helping clean up!
"women get to play in the world poker tour but also get there own womens world poker tour (no mens only poker tour)"
Is this really an issue that eats away at you at night? You can make a push for it, and it could happen. Probably wouldn't be that popular though. Poker tournaments are typically dominated by men with few expections anyway. By making an all-girls "novelty" new talent can be focused on, given a chance to hone their skills, get exposure, sponsorship, and of course the primarily male viewers of poker often find watching girls AND poker to be appealing. Advertising an all guy poker game isn't going set off any bells and whistles in my head to make sure I catch that event.
Voted for by Weydon.
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We are NOT Hypocrites
I am woman, hear me ro--, cough, cough. I don't understand this debate because women and minorities are definitely not higher status, higher salaried, or higher powered when compared to the white sausage. Presently there is also no state of equality between these groups. The minorities remain minorities still. (BTW, feminisim aims for equality) Our president is dumb, male and white (well, and rich, another inequality to bring up in another debate), and he definitely did not work hard to get where he is. This country (USA) is not a meritocracy.
As said before by others women's footlocker and women's poker tour were business decisions to make more profit, making those points irrelevant to this debate. (The stereotype is that women shop more than men, right?)
I am a wife who does the garbage, and I don't mind heavy lifting most of the time, so I help move furniture too. He cooks, I do laundry, he does the driving, neither of us do dishes,...etc...equal division of labor.
The main point that SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP and may make some feminists look hypocritcal is the DRAFT. Would I fight if drafted? Personally I want equality so I would go. I would be very, very scared, but I will do what it takes to get to the exalted white sausage rank.
Voted for by eighteight.
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I know a couple that actually have set roles as typical man and woman and im sure he is absolutely happy as he has a lot more freedom but she is definately not!! 
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There needs to be a balance when considering the detriments that each minority group faces. Agendas appropriating equality should focus more on granting benefits towards areas of deficiency rather than 'you get it because you are a black woman'. This ignores the reason for the benefit given and simply indicates one group is indefinetly flawed compared to another. This may be the case for some minority groups but we do not wish to posit this in the instance of race and gender. We want to acknowledge there are societal issues concerning race and gender that need to be (maybe) mended, and in the meantime allowances made for.
There are instances of the majority suffering because of sympathetic, persuaded, induced minority 'elitism'.
Paternity care is less recognised than maternity care and as a result single male parents have less access to support than women. There are no 'men's shelters'. Men who are violently beaten and abused by their wives or homosexual partners have less access to support than a woman, and less empathy is recieved from society. The necessity for multigender and multiracial workplaces can affect the individual male - if both present equal training and skill there is now increasing risk that a man will lose it to a woman or a white person to a black person, as the credit received from the latter stated employees (respectively), is greater than that of the former. (Note this is yet to make the white male less opportune as other factors are also involved, but to certain individuals simply being white and male has lost them a job, the exact thing we are trying to stop with the specified minorities).
I also find that some pushes for racial awareness and appreciation are in fact creating a racist, divisional policy towards white people, intended or not. A certain celebration in Australian schools hands out free sausages to indigenous children, while non-indigenous children are not allowed. I find this vehemently racist and destructive, particularly when focused around children who lack the understanding of racial minorities and the motivations behind it. All they know is that they don't get a sausage because they are white. If a young white child was to one day line up for one only to be turned away because of the colour of their skin, with no benefit or need for such a division - the impact would be just as devastating as setting up a 'white only' sausage policy.
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