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Religion aside, do you believe in a higher power?

Beyond, my friends, the nuances of our differences and creeds, beyond the doctrines of fear and hope religion place upon humanity, beyond ideals and morals, ideas and opinions, I want to know, do you believe in a higher power? That is to say, a greater entity than our selves that if it doesn't currently direct the affairs of the universe, at least started them in motion in the beginning of everything? I mean the beginning of everything, the beginning not just of this universe, but of existance itself. I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about an intelligent creator.

Be it a nebulous, existential "force" or a living being, do you believe in an intelligent creator? People often confuse God with religion. All religion requires God, but God does not require religion. Do you believe, at the absolute base of reality, that an intelligent entity created it? More than human perception or religious dogmatism, more than our feeble understanding and silly doctrine, do you believe, deep down, that there is more than us that made us?
  • More than meets the eye... or mathematics.
    I believe that the universe is an immensly complicated object, packed with multiple layers of reality, things on other dimensions other than the standard four we call our home.
    I believe that on another layer of this universe things exist and interact with our own plane of existence in ways which bring about "religious experiences."
    I believe that there is more to the physics and chemistry of the universe than we could imagine or grasp.
    I believe that there is "life" - possibly sentient - in other dimensions associated with our own. (Dimensions such as "depth, time, length" - not "alternate universes")
    I do NOT believe that there is a supreme god who called forth the universe from nothing, and ESPECIALLY not one who created it especially for US.
    I believe that if only we could seperate entirely from our bodies and perceptions, and view the universe as it /really/ is, in all it's complexity, we would see the "shapes behind the curtain", and say, "Oooohhh... I get it now," and know, once and for all, that there IS no god other than the natural laws, (As complex and strange as they will eventually prove to be)

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    50%  Voted for by nanoinfinity, dollar, trytothink.
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  • I would almost think there MUST be.
    I personally believe that at the base of all that is or will be or was, there was a beginning. A root of all causes beyond which cannot be perceived. I believe that everything we can see and touch did not just spring out of nothing, but was brought about by the design of something above the laws of physics, beyond the universe or human thought. I would say it's almost impossible to say that it isn't there.
    33%  Voted for by Xelgaroth, crosscountry07.
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  • Do I believe in an Intelligent creator...
    I think there is a type of creator in that there is a immense complex beyond our current thinking process which is happening. Such a process that it can be labled something like an intelligent creator welding away at this universe.

    Notice, that as time progresses things gradually develop into more complex things. Which can give the illusion to the complex things that an intelligent being created it, especially if the complex things happen to have develped egotism.

    These complex things with (accidently developed) egotism then question ones existence by looking at the way things are through there ego visors without ever concidering simpler beginnings.
    -dollar
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