Hi friends, please discuss these beliefs. Any one who thinks otherwise?
Read the remarks above in the entire report on the occassion to mark the International Non-Violence Day, declared as such for the first time by UN.
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I think its a wonderful ideaNon-violence appears to be difficult, but we practise it everyday in our life..... then why are people so afraid of this very thought.Voted for by Jackymania.
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Its Definitely UtopianNon-violence generally occurs when majorities have their way already, when minorities want to change that and haven't the power for direct revolt, when violence would not be effective for a number of reasons and so forth. Non-violence requires more civilization and culture to attain while the brute and untrained thing is to take the bone away from the other dog if hungry analogously speaking. Humanity fights over the bones of prosperity and laws to create general non-violence foe the masses are implicitly predicated on the state's exclusive right to use violence.Voted for by GaryCGibson.
India today is one of the world's nuclear powers and accomplished that by ignoring the non-proliferation treatise popular after the second world war. Original sin is pervasive in human nature and that includes violence unfortunately. One hopes that intellect would prevail in civilization generally and right principles and goals would be the norm; yet consider the methods of the Mohammedans suicide cultists in seeking to conquer Iraq...how many non violent Shi'a and Sunni should endure detonations by-others annually and feel non-violence is the right response?
Only through faith in Jesus Christ and a higher goal of eternal values might freedom and non-violence simultaneously prevail perhaps, for all circumstantial repressions of the expressions used searching for liberation from oppression tend to be sublimated under the necessity
to do so by a higher power's presence.
Humanity generally misunderstands what original sinmeans. It is more than a moral failing or tendency to do wickedness-it is the human physical condition for-itself with the physical drives compelled by existence.
The human characteristics of requiring food and shelter, sexuality and human relationships-even body temperature and physical timing cycles in relation to everything from gravitational fields to sunlight and night bring humanity to act not only in ways that create friction and conflict, intenstiona;l harm to others from the Nazis to Stalinism, Al Qa’eda and Bolshevist atheism but in unintentionals and complex relationship failures even unintentionally caused. Violence often is the result including cold blooded institutional violence. Orginal sin may be overcome only through a transcending relationship to Jesus Christ that provides a borrowed grace of God that guides the Christian according to God’s predetermined purposes.
Adam and Eve may represent biological theistic evolutionary epochs, and yet they may have existed in a Garden of Eden in a perfect form in another space and time then translated after the fall into the evolved world in a form less than that of their prior perfect existence without aging, disease, birth or death; it is certain that the sort of perfection required for perfect non-violence amidst ungoverned individuals does not exist amidst any known human social group. Of dozens of forms of alternate hominids that have existed on the Earth only homo sapiens remain still-there is a reason for that,and also why guerrillas and orangatans are endangered species.
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Yes, utopian.If everyone believed in the idea of human rights, violence wouldn't be a problem. We have punishments for violating these ideals, but people are still violent anyway.Voted for by frattaro.
Religion has nothing to do with it. I'm an atheist, and I don't commit violent acts because I believe in human rights.
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Just a DreamUtopia is a idealistic dream which should not be abandonedVoted for by cadmelicser.
yet at this point in human history it is the impossible
dream. Perhaps as humanity evolves we will someday arrive
in Utopia. In the mean time keep your guard up for you are living in a very violent world and will most likely parish
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It's bothIt does wonders and shows true strength. It HAS made amazing movements throughout history. But to protect what matters most, sometimes you need force to defend it.Voted for by Weydon.
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I would that it could be!Sorry but I think that non violence is a Utopian dream, but as the song says in south pacific " if you never have a dream how can you have a dream come true?" Might I suggest that while we dream weVoted for by bob2314.
arm ourselves like lions and behave like lambs because not everybody invisions the same Utopia.
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Jackymania
December 21, 2007
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interesting anecdote
Hi NeferThere is an interesting anecdote which happened in one of Gandhis' ashram (a communal place of living and allegience). A child (of one of the family) was very glutonous. Bapu (Gandhi-ji) tried to reason with him on the ills of over eating. According to the account by M G Polak (Gandhi's friend in S Africa), one day as when dinner was served this boy again as was his wont, insisted on having his will to which Gandhi objected at first. The boy then hurled tantrums and made undue noise about this. Fed up, with this constant greed to eat, Gandhi then told (his wife? or) server to feed him as much as he wants. The boy naturally overjoyed ate as much as possible. And then he dozed away on the table. A while later, he got up and again asked for more. This was also given. Later, after he had finished, Gandhi took him upstairs to his bed and to his mother. The whole night and on the following morning the boy had stomach upsets and was ill at ease the whole day. The boy learn't an important lesson that day, and never again did the problem arise.
This episode is not unique, (as surely it may be repeating almost at every house) but taking a cue out of it, i think violence - the impressions of which we witness today, will so overwelm this world, that it will eventually die off or fade off rather - that is as a political weapon, and mind you, not as the individual violent behviour we see day to day. Surely it cannot be eliminated but a larger peace will prevail after the the violent storm passes away, and when those vital lessons are learned.
The present human behaviour has yet to reach its landfall. If one can stop it well and good, if not you have to let it happen, as they want it to happen. Only after a realisation that violence cannot bring peace neither any solutions to their problem, will people shun violence. This is what is happening, and this shall happen.
So, do not despair but wait. Meanwhile what you can do is to be non-violent and preach about non-violence. The day of peace will thus not be that far away. Man to man, nation to nation, culture to culture. You will see light. If you look for that faint light of hope you will see it more brighter the next blink you have, but if you are looking for darkness, no light will come to you.
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