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God is Infinite

I was thinking about it the other day, and infinite means -EDIT:- undefinable - -. so by saying God is Infinite, you're basically saying he is undefinable. Undefinable = cannot be met by a concept; Ergo ipso facto, anyone's idea of God is wrong
  • In de finite
    Right-God is not finite. It does not follow that any definition of God is wrong, rather any definition is incomplete. The definition may be true-such as 'God is love', yet there is more to it than that.

    And again maybe not. Is it possible that the essence of God is included accurately in the idea that 'love is all there is', and anything else must be sin?

    One encounters sets and subsets of categories of words and classifications here.

    37%  Voted for by GaryCGibson, TeChNoWC, pnktrky.
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  • Infinite
    Certainly does not mean undefined. This topic should be closed down for literary negligence.
    25%  Voted for by TeChNoWC, Weydon.
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  • Another redundant god debate?
    maybe so, but still..
    Voted for by Molzahn.
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  • Look up a definition before you put it up
    Undefinable - (adj.): not capable of being precisely or readily described; not easily put into words; "an abstract concept that seems indefinable"

    Can "infinite" be defined? Well, in a way, yes - Webster does it and hundreds of others claim they have its definition...But, conceptualized? I would find it hard to believe that even Einstein could "conceptualize" much more than a few thousand "somethings at one time" - let alone a million, trillion, or any of those tiny numbers when compaired to what "infinity" is supposed to be - we must be able to "view" these complex concepts - like looking at the nighttime sky to gain understanding of its vastness. Even geniuses have to work through things one at a time - even if the ideas are complex. Infinite is complex - truth is complex. When we take a statement "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" and accept that simple phrase and concept as truth we are sorely mislead by ourselves. Quantum physics and electromagnetism works on an almost opposite principle - action can result in no response action at all: Newton himself says a form of this statement: "An object in motion will remain in motion..." Motion is change and ACTION. We must understand that, in all technicality, ALL TRUTH is infinite. This is the basis for the ontological argument for God - I can conceptualize (not necessarily define, but conceptualize) the idea for an infinate creature God. Because of the definition of His characteristics and the understanding that many have of Him (however limited), he must exist. At this point, we must understand and continually remember that truth is infinate: just because we will not reach truth does not mean it doesn't exist: because of its infinate qualities and the limited but existing understanding we have of truth, it must exist. God, yes is undefined, but that is the very reason why He MUST exist.
    Voted for by maconthefarlane.
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  • I'll have a shot.
    I have spent a lot of time thinking about G-d over the years. Conceptualizing this impossible, implausible yet, I feel, essential something. And it occurred to me that the only sensible and undeniable quality which G-d must, I believe, have is the quality of infinity. As such, all conceptualizations of G-d are correct but incomplete. Thus, if I say G-d is the Devil I am quite correct, but G-d is also my mother; G-d is loving, but also vindictive. That is, G-d is infinite not just in terms of size, knowledge, power etc. but in an infinite number of ways, infinitely infinite.

    Just my thoughts, they'll probably change again, so don't worry.

    A. H.
    Voted for by Alexander Hine.
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