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Are homos usually atheists to avoid conviction of sin?

Denial of sin and denial of God are two common points of homosexual militants.


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  • On the subject of hate crimes etc.
    I think hate crimes are simply ordinary crimes to which a particular designated protected class member has been the victim. In other words language cannot become by itself a hate crime, but only evidence of hate against a class member in the commissionn of an ordinary crime.

    Adding a psychological element to the law was an egregious blunder I think. There are so many minorities in prison already that adding more time onto sentences for hating the people not of their racial group they commit crimes upon probably isn't a helpful method of correction.

    One profound effect of the hate crimes legislation was to give the federal government another invasive power for intervention in state legal issues. The federal government evidentally will decide what is or isn't 'hate' and when it should be appended to particular crimes that states have arraigned suspects with. That is a substantive degradation of state sovereignty that occurred along with N.A.F.T.A. and millions more illegal aliens flooding over the uncntrolled Mexican border. The hate crimes legislation may have been a way to eventually gain more trans-national power over the United States legal system and over the legal soveriegnty of the 50 states. Trans-nation direct investment inthe year 2000 was 335 billion dollars, and it is said that a 17 trillion dollar foreign investment power is building.

    It isn't clear if hate must be the reason the crime was committed, or if hating the class incidentally is sufficient to qualify for hate crime status.

    Consider the purse snatcher drive by that rip off a woman's finger as I read about recently. The guy driving the car was committing a crime, but if the woman was wearing a hood or some other means of concealing her race or even lesboness if that were possible, and the guy hated those groups but was unaware that such was the victim a priori would it still be a hate crime? Wouldn't the guy need to have hate of a class member and then choose to snatch the purse for it to be a hate crime?

    It is so difficult to get people convicted for defamation or especially for slandor or libel in speech nowdays unless its egregious and usually against celebreties. Speach unless used proximally to urge the commission of crimes is a first amendment protected thing and not even the hate of many democrats of George W. Bush would make thems 'hate criminals' for saying that he has a lightweight i.q. insufficient to get a ballon to float in the air and lets Condi Rice do the heavy intellectual lifting for him.

    33%  Voted for by GaryCGibson, Am-big-you-us-me, petethemeat.
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    Are Christians usually excessively wordy to avoid being understood?
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  • Is homo 'marriage' an example of macro-social immune system attack?
    One must wonder if homo 'marriage' efforts in the various states isn't a sort of social immunology attack. Homosexuality unfortunately may be a genetic defect that in the modern world may not be curable yet may be correctable enough to allow homos to lead normal lives.

    It would be a substantive social error to let the social disease destroy society or become a protracted major influence upon degradation of the health of the social structure. Historically the decline and fall of civilizations may be marked by the rise in decadent homosexual lifestyles in society.

    Society of course has unnumerable ways of over-reacting to social issues of concern, and generally in finding ways to maladroitly correct social concerns and that probably will not change.

    Homosexuality is plainly a grave sin in a Biblical moral context, yet the effect upon society of homosexual corruption of meanings of moral and political issues in order to provide camoflage in some sort of social struture made for heterosexuals are some of the reasons why societies decline, and why nature leads to the downfall of perverse societies perhaps.

    Choosing the atheist path or seeking to corrupt the truth of the Bible about the doom of homosexuals and other unrepentent sinners will not be of help to the lost on the day of judgment. One hopes that at least a few of the lost homos struggling in turmoil or confusion in-the-world will find their way to God through the Son Jesus Christ who shed His blood for the remission of the sin of those of faith.

    Even the context of philosophy is corrupted by the life-long desire of some homosexuals to move society toward a more homo-affinity structure. Homosexuality and issues pertaining to it's political prosyletation aren't hardly worth a damn philosophically speaking.

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  • I don't agree
    Many homosexuals were disowned by their "Christian" parents. Not because of sin, but because they were told that just because of how they were, they were doomed to hell. Who wants to be religious when they are told that no matter what they do, they'll burn anyway?? Would you live a Christian life if you thought that you would have the same fate as a Satanist no matter what you did? This happened to a friend of mine. These "Christians" are responsible for thier children turning to atheism, when they should have been loving and understanding, and guiding them in their time of need. I do understand that polical correctness can change societies drastically. Stating your beliefs can become a "hate crime" and such. This, in my opinion, has gone way too far and does need to change.
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  • Oil and Water
    1. most people believe the religions of their parents
    2. most people do not want contradictory beliefs.
    3. most religions condemn homosexuality

    4. occasionally, a person is born homosexual to religious parents (a mutation, if you will)
    5. that child will have to reconcile their incompatible beliefs.

    religion is inherited socially, homosexuality has been naturally imposed. the choice to abandon their religion is the more feasible option.

    in this regard, homosexuality is good, because it forces people to critically think about their beliefs instead of just by osmosis accepting those from their parents.


    GaryCGibson: what religion were your parents?
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