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Enjoyment in Heaven

Heaven....

Ok, my R.E. teacher, many other Christians and people of different religions believe that when you die, our souls go to heaven; our physical self rots away, and the inner being floats off to heaven (or some to hell). So I sat there in R.E. thinking....So....If our souls are seperate from our physical self, why in fact do when there is large trauma or injury to the head do we sometimes lose our minds? We sometimes, wake up with a changed personality.

So I asked my R.E. teacher this and he replied. "Well this is because our memory, personality is not our soul". Well....That stumped me. Then I thought about it again and thought. Well, if our personality and memories are not our soul. Then Heaven must suck pretty badly. I like to think that I enjoy myself by satisfying my needs due to my personality, I have fun because of the contrast between the bad things in life and I enjoy doing the things I enjoy doing!

So my R.E. teacher is saying that when I go to heaven I loose my emotions? I am left with something else? How can you enjoy yourself without emotions and memory? The only thing that makes things nice is because of the bad things that happen. (For example, a spoilt child will hate to have a muffin, he would prefer something better and he would enjoy the better thing. Wereas a starving child would think that a angel has blessed him/her).
  • Yeah
    I don't particularly like that belief process either. I may as well have nothing happen to me, because that's not gonna be me anyway. True happiness would be being me with the people I love, and interacting with new people as well.
    25%  Voted for by Weydon, Silhouette93.
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  • WRONG
    The mind is of the soul. The spirit is different to the soul. The soul is either in alignment with the spirit or the flesh. The real you is in Christ Jesus. If your mind changes and you become insane, any part of you that is not meant to be is of the flesh and is to be cast off while your true identity in Christ Jesus remains and is purified. And if you aren't willing to change and be renewed, then such it is of the flesh. It stays trapped, and you, in spirit, as the insane man is of mind.

    You are your identity in Christ Jesus or perish.
    Voted for by TeChNoWC.
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  • the questions
    does the soul have to do with your mental mind? if not then who are you really? if so... what does that mean to ppl that go insane, better said mentally distraut, who were not like that from the begining? what happens to them afterwards? by the way... the only thing that we are promised as christians is that in heaven we will be in the real and true presense of GOD anything else is mere speculation. althouch if you go by what catholics believe... then thats why purgatory exists. to cleanse the soul of its unheavenly elements. although what those are and what is perfection is still up for questioning... i would much rather discuss that. if the soul is cleansed of what it retains from the flesh, what would be clensed, and would that not be the same as brainwashing us to be happy? is there any way clense to make happiness but still being you? if not than i would rather go to hell where i will still be me... for worse or for better... for all we know, truely know, of hell is that this is where the presence of GOD does not exist anything else is mere speculation.
    Voted for by pnktrky.
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  • the mind is the brain
    there is no such thing as a soul.

    the christians stole the idea of a soul from either the greeks or the romans. a being with a soul was thought to be duelistic, there is a mind-body relationship. (in comparision to monistic which is brain/body).

    face it people, we are a bunch of firing neurons.
    Voted for by Kazrith.
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  • Christ
    Talks about dying to oneself. In a way you could consider this as similar to much of the Buddhist philosophy. That to lose oneself and harness discipline of your spirit (true self), you become one with God. God is the only perfect Being. I would much rather be like Him than be wretched, staying as we are and not learning to progress. To die to our natural, carnal, limited understanding ways, we can open up to a greater existence of, one could put it, a collective consciousness of a greater plane and Being of existence.

    If you want to progress, then you need to learn to give up what you are now... One will not progress when they are bound to whom they are, particularly that which is distant to God. To love one's life as it is causes stagnation. You will keep what you have and that is all you ever will have, and what you are will only degenerate, for we cannot stay still. We are ever changing. Either you grow, or you decay. You must will growth. Decay is natural and as inevitable as the grave. Break free from the natural into the supernatural, and grow.
    Voted for by TeChNoWC.
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  • Heaveeen
    Heaven is a place God created for all of his children to go so that they may worship him for eternity. That seems to be about all that the Bible says about what happens after one enters the Kingdom of Heaven.

    I try to consider myself practical, but I also like to think I have a soul. Or if not a soul, at least individuality of mind. In my opinion, that makes me...me. To lose that would be the equivalent of losing my soul.
    Voted for by scarlet screams.
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  • God's Mind
    Heaven is being one with God's mind so to speak. We get to share in all that he feels and experience minus the power I suppose or we become all powerful gods. All human minds in heaven become connected to one another as in a computer network therefore you will not miss anyone you know but know them better the way God knows each of us. The important thing is that each one retains his or her own identity. That means the will must not be tampered which explains why God doesn't want to override our free will to the point that it is extinguished or he gets back to square one before creation - alone by himself. He just wants our will to be in perfect alignment with his own thus the reason for complete obedience. God is love and because of this nature he wants to share all his happiness directly with us - creatures of his own likeness capable of enjoying as he does. He is however under no obligation to this. The connection with God is through our soul. If a person dies and leaves earth but has not connected (be in heaven) with God's mind yet, his consciousness will be in a realm where time does not operate. Time is God's creation that permeates earth and all the known universe but he is not bound by it. Hence, the person will not experience or remember anything while in such timeless dimension (outside the mind of God). Hell is also outside the mind of God but was especially prepared to house Satan and his cohorts for a different experience of time - eternity.
    Voted for by sorenia.
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  • leave heaven out of this...
    well I don't think what happens to us after we die is of any significance... for we are dead...now if we have a soul that is independent from our memory's our emotions our feelings our personalities or what ever i truly believe that this is of no significance.

    why does religion have to revolve around
    heaven (carrot-greed) and
    hell (stick-fear)
    you either see the face of god and be with him or you are to be thrown in the damned world of hell
    you either find ultimate happiness or true pain

    why is it that some people do good to go to heaven...others do good from fear of hell...

    for me heaven, if it exists, is something thats supposed to be compiled by the same entity that made you and understand you more than anything, so i think heaven should be good and that same entity did hell so i think hell will really sting
    but again why bother!!! (god is supposed to be the all merciful all fair all perfect entity of the world so he must have had all of this figured out so don't care! if you die he'll take care of it
    and if he's not there then there you go no harm done!
    in the end please do good for the love of humanity and if you treat life for the short span of living that it is then you'll enjoy your life more and if you treat every body like you would love them to treat you then all is great! thats our own little heaven here!
    and i honestly believe that this is what all religion want of us and maybe what god wants too...
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