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stats 2005unintentional deaths in the USA: 78942% Voted for by Kazrith, Weydon, nanoinfinity.
undetermined cause: 221
Legal intervention: 330
homicide: 12,343
Suicide: 17,001
all intents: 30,684
between the ages of 14-25: 7,758
between the ages of 0-6: 95
between the ages of 7-13: 184
between the ages of 0-25: 8,037
pop: 296,507,061
that is a lot of gun related deaths. the size of a small city wiped out every year...
canada's gun related deaths have decreased since the gun registration program was implamented.
gun related deaths in 1979 per 100,000 people: 1,416
gun related deaths in 2002 per 100,000 people: 816
gun related deaths at implication Bill C-68 (1995)per 100,000 people: 1,125
there are 3.981 times more gun related deaths in the USA than there is in Canada
USA stats: http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html
Canada stats:
http://www.statcan.ca/english/studies/82-003/archive/2005/16-4-b.pdf
always interesting when you look at the statistics
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how effective can it be?how effective can gun control be when even those who advocate it are unwilling to comply?42% Voted for by NeferMaatNetjer, Hardhittn63, bob2314.
Ted Kennedy, mister gun-control himself, has a bodyguard who packs more heat than Rambo. he was once arrested in DC for carrying on him 2 submachine guns, a large caliber pistol, and over 100 rounds of ammunition
Carl Rowan, outspoken anti-gun columnist, shot a youth in his back yard for trespassing, with, I might add, an unregistered handgun
Jennifer O'Neil, actress and gun-control advocate, shot herself accidentally with an unregistered handgun, then later denied ever owning a gun AFTER the police confiscated it and charged her with violating the very same gun laws she had helped push through the system
Dianne Feinstein has a concealed weapon permit AFTER saying that NOBODY should be allowed to carry concealed weapons.
Jay Rockefeller, one of the architects of the assault weapon ban, himself owns an AR-15, the semi-auto version of the M-16.
Isn't it funny how those who would demand the rest of us to give up our guns are unwilling to give up theirs?
How effective are prohibitions? well let's take a look.
in 1929, congress passed the 20th amendment, making alcohol for consumption illegal in all 48 states. less than a decade later they repealed it because there was so much illegal booze in the country they couldn't even hope to get it under control.
There are at least 100 times more Marijuana users today than when the drug was first made illegal in the 1940s.
In the 1950s, Congress tried to make being a member of the Communist Party illegal, and actively persecuted those suspected of it by publicly denouncing them in mock HUAC "hearings", and often imprisoning them on trumped-up criminal charges. In the 1960s and 70s, there were more card-carrying Communists here in the United states than during World War II, when Russia was our ALLY!
In 1775, British troops, fearful of a rebellion, marched to Lexington, New Jersey, to seize the armory there before rebel militiamen could use the muskets contained therein to start a revolt against England. It was hoped that without guns, the colonists would quiet down and accept the laws King George III imposed on them...
we all know how well THAT went for England!
so, if prohibition failed to stop alcohol, drugs, communism and rebellion, how effective do you suppose it will be against gun violence?
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Canada's population: 33,241,509
US: 303,898,405
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second, whether the guns where registered or not in the killing does not actually matter, the fact is, the numbers declined after the registration was implimented. why? because a canadian cannot walk into a gun store and buy a gun. you have to have a ticket saying you can opperate one safely first, and then apply for a registration when you buy the gun. you cannot walk out with a gun on the same day. this in itself is a deterant of gun related deaths
thirdly, suicide is illegal and therefore, not a right. no it is not the only way, but it is an easy way and people believe it to be relatively painless if you shoot yourself in the head, which could increase the likelihood of someone commiting suicide.
personally i could care less what the americans do with gun control. i can see a problem with it, many problems. maybe the answer is to have gun sales a state controlled commodity. have background checks run on the purchaser (would even create jobs, which are lacking down there), and fines could finance it.
i am more of an archery person. guns are so barbaric.
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You say you are an archery person. That's all well and good. NOBODY is going to force you to own a gun if you don't want one! (me, I'm a black-powder muzzle loader guy. I just love the smell of it!)
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No, i was not implying that legalizing gun in DC would get rid of violent crimes in DC (although it would give innocent people a chance to defend themselves, which they don't have now). i was pointing out the complete and utter failure of the nations strictest gun control laws to stop or even reduce violent crime in the nation's capitol.
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and you guys think terrorism is a problem...
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if gun control laws are so effective, why is Manchester, England, colloquially known as "Gunchester" for all the illegal firearms there? that's a fact the Pommies don't talk to much about.
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Because DC has no guns but high crime, and Montana has lots of guns but no crime, THAT must be the connection? Why? Because criminals fear guns so they stay clear of Montana? You may as well claim it has to do with the weather, you gave no reason to believe that gun laws had to do with that. Do you have some sort of statistics showing the high rate of self-regulated defense of Montana stopping the crime? Or would it be more logical to assume that DC's high population in a very dense, poor urban area has to do with crime--just as it does in every other city in the history of humanity?
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And its not only to protect yourself as you say.
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guns make us feel powerful. and sometimes that feeling is all it taks to pull the trigger. next thing you know, someone else is dead.
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Regardless, my stance is not that all guns should be banned, and never was. I was merely saying that DC's crime rate has nothing to do with guns being illegal, nor does Montana's have to do with guns being legal. My advocacy for gun control is unrelated to the shakey idea of guns being a good form of home security.
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no state will allow leathal force
the best burglers will not even wake you up when they break into your home, if you are home at all. the best defense is an alarm.ah. so the poor child, who has no money, no food, no shelter, who resorts to breaking and entering to obtain food, they deserve to be shot?
its time to look at a larger picture than just yourself.
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would you mind telling me what elements of our government is socialists?
canada is a constitutional monarchy that is also a parliamentary democracy and a federation
definition of Socialism - a government in which the means of planning, producing, and distributing goods is controlled by a central government that theoretically seeks a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor; in actuality, most socialist governments have ended up being no more than dictatorships over workers by a ruling elite.
(none of which is canada)
other definitions
Constitutional Monarchy - a system of government in which a monarch is guided by a constitution whereby his/her rights, duties, and responsibilities are spelled out in written law or by custom.(not so much as we are independant of britian now)
Parliamentary Democracy - a political system in which the legislature (parliament) selects the government - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor along with the cabinet ministers - according to party strength as expressed in elections; by this system, the government acquires a dual responsibility: to the people as well as to the parliament.
the USA is a consition-based federal republic.
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why not socialistic?
in a true socialistic way, everything would be covered, perscriptions, surgery, check-ups, blah blah blah. really, all that is covered is the basics. check-ups, stitches, stomach pumps. otherwize you have to have medical insurance. if you dont, you get hit with some hefty bills ($1600 for a wisdom tooth extraction surgery). you have to have insurance if you want any assistance with these things.April 22
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year 2000
32,637 all suicidesfalling: 683
firearm: 17,002
drowning: 375
poison: 5,744
motor vehicle: 113
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Kaz has been open about his limited knowledge in American policies, saying beforehand that he is no familiar with a certain aspect before explaining his current understanding. You're just insisting Canada is Socialist for some bizarre reason.
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