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God does Exist
See, firstly, there can never be any definite proof to who God exactly is-unless you see him, hear him, feel him, or sense him. It could even be a 'her' for all you know.
But I can prove that They do exist.
Let's take the example of the universe. Many scientists say that the universe was created as a result of the Big Bang. Agreed. But didn't the Big Bang also require some particles? Are you trying to say it resulted as a result of vacuum? How can vacuum produce anything? Even if a single atom was behind this entire universe, wasn't this atom also created by someone?
Of course, the penultimate question is that God exists, even They must have been created by someone. My good friend Chibi-Chan said that God transcends all dimensions, including those of time. Yet, I find it difficult to understand that there wasn't anything before God. Did he suddenly materialize out of nothingness?
Neverlethess, I do believe there is some kind of force out there that has created this universe.
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Voted for by NeferMaatNetjer, SaffronGreenSpirit.
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Sad
This is nothing more than a simpleminded argument with matters subtly related to cosmology, but so infused with irrationality that this statement is rendered useless amongst peers of intellectuals.
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Voted for by JoeX, NoeL-.
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In Greek Mythology
The chaos of the blackness created the gods and world from nothingness. Is it so much of a stretch to say that the universe was also born of chaos? Who is to say that God wasn't born of this chaos as well?
Arguing that God created the universe isn't always as conclusive as you might think. Arguing the existence of God isn't as conclusive as you might think either.
Voted for by Molzahn.
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Life from life
The greatest proof is that life has always come from life, all plants, animals, insects, everything, all life comes from life, rewind time and at one time there was no life on this planet, but yet it appeared, where did it come from,it had to have come from life, a life that is eternal.In fact life in itself is proof that God(Life) exists.
Voted for by James5193.
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Finally!
Finally someone who gets it! Good job. This is a question which I have asked myself millions of times. I know (more or less) what kind of power created everything, but HOW did it happen, I still try to find out. As I've heard, the Big Bang has something to do with the whole process, but as you suggest, I don't think a boom can create, it's only there to destroy. And even if there was a boom, how would it, how COULD it happen without ANYTHING there to blow it off? I don't think this theory of the scientists' is good enough. I once learned (one theory) that before "time" as we know it, the big nothingness (then) known as Space, was not so empty after all. Two small particles filled the gap: Antimatter and matter. They collided and the Big Bang was formed. Later, quarks allied with the substances to make everything that is today. About God; you said "they". Who did you really mean? God, as Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, or God-God? God is ONE person, by definition, Heavenly Father is one and Jesus is one. Though I believe there to be several gods, only one God "counts" to us as "God".
Voted for by CitizenSoldier.
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gah
well in your thery to make it solid would you not have to prove how god was created? if you say that an atom cannot create himself then would it not be the same for "god". and thus even if god did exist in solid for then would he not be made of atoms also thus he should not have any advantage over the humen.
Voted for by runicSilver.
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Love it !!!!
I love a good debate where NO ONE can prove, beyond a doubt, their point 100% either way.  It's always been this way and will continue to be this way. Christians say prove there is no God and non-Christians say prove He is real. This is one of those debates you get suckered into where there is no clear winner at the end. This is a debate that says alot but in the end leads right back to the starting line again. It just so happends I'm a Christian who believes God designed it this way on purpose, but I have no problem with those who wish to see it another way. it's your life, live it how you wish.
Voted for by Energizer Bunny.
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April 29, 2009
April 29, 2009
stop pushing start proving
says who ... so what ... WHERES THE PROOF!April 29, 2009
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notice the Spirit of God part.
Energizer Bunny
August 16, 2009
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tomwc
August 20, 2009
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gene88
April 29, 2009
Energizer Bunny
August 16, 2009
gene88
August 17, 2009
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Crazyhead
April 29, 2009
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it seems insanely unlikely, but remember that we are talking about infinity...
besides, since when is the big bang fact?
there are many other theories, and there will be more in the future... but your god seems to stem from your ignorance, not enlightenment as it should...
Swintha
May 22, 2009
Molzahn
June 2, 2009
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Molzahn
June 2, 2009
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mudgod
June 20, 2009
Crazyhead
June 21, 2009
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and big bang dictates that it was a singularity, not anything the size of an atom, that expanded...
NoeL-
August 16, 2009
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How can you have evidence of nothing?
We have plenty of evidence to suggest the universe is around 13.5 billion years old.
mudgod
June 21, 2009
NoeL-
August 16, 2009
First you're assuming there WAS a creation, then you're assuming there was a Creator. When you see trees swaying in the breeze, does that swaying have a creator or is it just the result of the wind hitting the trees? You wouldn't call wind a "creator" would you?
Once you use terms like "creation" and "creator" you're limiting your field of view and ability to discover the truth. The question isn't WHO created the universe or even WHAT created the universe, it's HOW did the universe come to exist? You're not making any assumptions as to whether it was a who or a what, or whether it was created or otherwise. You're only dealing with the facts and keeping assumptions to an absolute minimum - and the only fact we have is that the universe exists.
"But even so, science does not support a big band theory or the evolutionary theory."
Yes it does (well maybe not the Big Band theory, but certainly the Big Bang theory).
"The fact that we still have uranium, an element that decays at a scientifically determined rate, that has not yet decayed completely and there is no more being created, should show to the simplist mind that there had to be of necessitity, a Creator."
Even if that were true (which it isn't) how does the presence of uranium indicate a necessary Creator? Surely it makes no difference whether the universe was created or not - unless you're arguing the age of the universe the uranium would have been depleted regardless.
Energizer Bunny
August 16, 2009
NoeL-
August 16, 2009
No I'm not! I'm saying we lack evidence to know if there WAS a creator.
"I think mud is on the right track here."
Why?
Energizer Bunny
August 17, 2009
NoeL-
August 17, 2009
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NoeL-
August 17, 2009
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NoeL-
August 16, 2009
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"possibly even less than nothing since nothing is able to realize it is nothing."
LOL! So nothing can think? What nonsense =P
Crazyhead
June 21, 2009
there are many other theories, and there will be more in the future... but your god seems to stem from your ignorance, not enlightenment as it should..."
i wasnt supporting big bang (which is a crock, if you ask me)... i was simply correcting you... pointing out that it is, indeed possible for the amount of matter we're talking about to have come from a single point in space... a creator is still not necessary, however...
your faith in god on this subject stems from ignorance... a feeble foundation for faith...
Energizer Bunny
August 17, 2009
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Energizer Bunny
August 17, 2009
Crazyhead
August 18, 2009
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"You can't have a creation without a Creator." just because YOU cant explain it, doesnt mean it is or isnt true...
Weydon
August 22, 2009
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"LOL! So nothing can think? What nonsense =P "
Obviously what I was saying that nothing CAN'T think, therefore it's less than nothing. We can identify nothing, therefore giving it value and concept and representation. True nothing has less than this, so is even less than what we could ever understand to be nothing. So a condescending face back to you as well.
Molzahn
August 25, 2009
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Nah man, you're thinking of something along the lines of Murphy's Law. Chaos theory deals with the idea that every variable contributes to what we consider 'chaotic.' It's an outlet of determinism.
Molzahn
August 25, 2009
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I'm curious to how we might illustrate what 'nothing' is. But if we illustrate it, aren't we looking at the illustration, and not the actual thing in question?
hm. I'm caught in a line of evolving thought it seems.
August 26, 2009
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Chibi-Chan aka Moses?
Who is Chibi-Chan that he alone holds this particular knowledge of this unseen, incomprehensible entity that you call God? Did God provide this information to him exclusively? Any revelation from god is personal! I have no obligation to accept that God spoke to him personally simply because Mr. Chan says so! Futhermore if all things that exist must have a creator,it brings us back to question regarding the atom! If God was behind this entire universe, wasn't this god created by someone? And so on, and so on, and so on? If your response is that God has always existed, why isn't that an acceptable explaination for the universe?Please register or login to comment! It's fast and totally free!