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Philosophy: Proof or Opinion?

Do you believe that all philosophies need proof. Or is it formed from a belief?
  • Philosophy: Usually Proof
    The majority of Philosophy involves the handling of objective ideas. One does not have a philosophical idea for no reason at all; rather, there exist certain reasons for which they hold a particular view. "I believe that a person's identity is comprised of their thoughts because..." There is a reason for it; it did not simply spring up arbitrarily in one's head. If you are making an objective claim about something that either IS true or is NOT true, for instance, "I believe in ghosts", then you must have a reason for it. You don't simply come up with the idea. You either have reason to believe that ghosts exist, in which case you believe that they do, or you do not have reason to believe that ghosts exist, in which case you do not believe that they do. But you cannot have no reason to believe that ghosts exist and still continue to believe it-- at least, you cannot consciously be aware that there is no evidence for their existence, and yet continue to believe that they exist. You must, on some level, have reason to believe, even if that reason is a bad one, even if that reason can be refuted. Bottom line, any part of philosophy that makes an objective claim about life, or the world, et cetera, MUST therefore have some sort of reason or evidence to support the concept as proof.

    There are, however, certain branches of philosophy that in truth do not have proof. Any part of philosophy that involves making a SUBjective claim shall not have any proof or reason; it is purely based upon the person's own opinion. Ęsthetic philosophy, for example, is entirely based upon personal ideals of beauty. That was a good book. I prefer the colour green to purple. I thought that what he said was very funny. These are true opinions, and can neither be proven nor be disproven; it is purely subjective, based on the person's own opinion.

    But any philosophical branch that involves making an objective assertion (which is probably a good 90% of philosophy) does involve proof. I believe a person's identity is comprised of their thoughts. I also have reason to believe this. I could not have no reason to think so and still think it. I may have faulty reasons, reasons that can be repudiated and refuted, but I have reasons nonetheless. I may hold a particular view to be correct or incorrect, and I have reasons for it. I disagree with a given idea because the person suggesting it has not produced sufficient reason to think it. If you assert, for example, that the government is watching us, I will ask you why you believe it. If you simply "believe it", then you are a fool. You must have a reason to believe it. Simply stating, "It's my own opinion" is unintelligible. It may be your own opinion, but simply because it is your opinion is not WHY you believe it; the statement is either true or untrue, and you have reasons for thinking a particular way.
    33%  Voted for by Xelgaroth, SynysterVengeance.
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  • Proof
    It virtually can always have proof. Certainly in SOME aesthetic forms, things become somewhat "improvable". Was that movie funny? Is this art? Is this right or wrong?

    To certain extents we can say "Well it depends..." and "You have a right to your opinion, but I just don't see it." But lines have to be drawn, and DO already exist. If anything is funny or art or morally correct according to the beholder, then all of these words mean nothing and everything all at once. There is no purpose or true meaning to them. Words have definitions for a reason, we cannot simply make them EVERYTHING (and nothing).
    33%  Voted for by Weydon, SenseiRidgway.
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  • Simply put!
    If you have proof, it is proof. If you have no proof, it is not proof; therefore opinion.
    Voted for by GinryuStargazer.
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  • Necissarily...
    There is some proof to philosophies. But not all of them. It all starts with what people believe in, opinions, then you speculate over them do you not? If we need proof for everything, then there's a problem. There's no hope or faith in anything. It's all based on if you can see it, or if you can't.

    If you always need proof, how about you go live in the "SHOW ME STATE." I promise you that Missouri is literal Misery. Good luck
    Voted for by Rhapsody.
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