I've heard a lot of people say that God's word is the bible and you can't have God without the bible and things like that. Well, I don't think they are truly putting the bible in context.
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Historical documentVoted for by DisturbedLoner.
I have a relationship with God outside of any church or code of behavior and recently outside of the bible. I realized that everything in the Bible except for the story of creation, the fact that God loves us, the things Jesus said, and the predictions of the future that are supposed to apply to this or a near generation, are just a historical document of things that happened specifically too and were done specifically for the ancient generations recorded in it.
Yet the christian church takes all those old laws and rules and applies them to us when none of them were meant for us. I know I'm opening the door for tons and tons of criticizm here. But I find that my biggest problem is not weather God exists or not, because I know He does, it's weather the church and others who believe in Him are representing Him properly according to what he's telling each of us sepereately and individually today (which you'll find a completely different and unique message according to us and our path in life than from anyone else) or weather their just telling us the same old junk from two thousand years ago that doesn't even apply to us now in general. In fact I've found that a lot of other cultures and religions and mythology in the studying I do, and metaphysics and Astrology which are completely ignored by the church has actually helped further and broaden myself spiritually and I'm listening to the Now God as I like to call Him instead of the proverbial two thousand year ago one.
My debate here is not weather God exists or not, it's more about what you think of the bible and the foundation of the christian religion.


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June 28, 2005
just a question
i'm not trying to bash you or anything, but don't you think that if the Bible means nothing then God wouldn't have wasted His time having it created? and why doesn't the stuff in it apply to our lives today? i mean Jesus is still raised from the dead, and you should still love the Lord your God with all your heart mind and soul and love our neighbor as yourself. and as for all the stories we are supposed to use them to help us in our daily walk as christians. . .July 23, 2005
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GaryCGibson
June 29, 2005
What the 'Church' is and Why people aren't perfect
If one reads the Bible with some depth and faith, one may learn more than the superficial ideas that may inform one about what the Bible is about that haven't much to do with it. One may learn that the Christian Church is the union of believers in Jesus Christ, whom develop a metaphysical relationship with the Creator/Jesus. In-the-world believers associate phenomenally, you may recollect that Jesus said that were two or more are gathered together in His name he is in their midst with them. Jesus Christ, as represented by the sacraments of the last supper, is the bread of life, the substantial co-creator of everything that is. Do not form an idea about the kingdom of God from people in the world...that would be like looking through the wrong end of a telescope, or judging the perfect forms of government that some excellent philosopher might write about through the examination of the members of congress today. The people of the world are subject to original sin and may be redeemed only through the grace of God through the sacrificial blood atonement of His Son Jesus Christ. Searching for perfection in people on Earth will result in a never ending quest for the unattainable. Paul wrote that all have fallen short of the glory of God, and that none are worthy, not a single one. Romans 5: "16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord."July 23, 2005
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