is there any arguement other than "the bible says so"?
is there any LOGICAL arguement against them?
let me cover one of the more "popular" arguements right off the bat so we dont have to deal with it later: being gay is unnatural-----
"some animals are actually homosexual. one example is penguins. silo and his partner live in a zoo some where in the states only swim, mate and other such things with each other. look it up on the net, you will find it.
oh, and at wikipedia there is a whole list of animals that include dogs, cats, dolphins, bison, and sheep"ť - Kazrith
"So many cases of homosexuality involving different species of animals have been recorded. You would be surprised. I guess you have to research your stuff before making assumptions. If the world were constituted of 100 humans, 10 would be gay. Did you know that? Probably not." - Axelle Black
"when given the choice 8% of male rams consistantly mount other male rams, often engaging in intercourse." - ennoia
--------------------------------------------- but let get even more specific... why is gay MARRIAGE wrong... even IF (and thats a big IF) being gay is wrong, why shouldn't we let them marry? their not forcing anyone to be gay.... and not letting them marry is not going to make them any less gay...
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Our bodies are puzzles8% Voted for by The Hidden Darkness, EternalEyes.
look at the human body!!! the female and male body fit together like puzzle pieces. If you try and take 2 of the same pieces together the puzzle doesn't work.
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LydzImagine a couple that have spent their whole lives together, they have witnessed each others highs and each others lows they love each other just as much as any straight couple. They have a realtionship that is unrecognised by the government. Imagine if one of the two people had an accident, the other one goes to the hospital, and cannot see their life partner because he/she is just classes as a friend? or even worse what if they can't say goodbye to their love? People deserve to show their commitment to eachother whever it be noted by religious people or not because no matter how much you say being gay is wrong, there will always be gay people... God wouldn't allow gay marriage to happen, but why is it happening? They deserve to comitt themselves as "one" with eachother. just as straight couples. END OF STORY.8% Voted for by Lydz, Weydon.
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The world suffers as it is..8% Voted for by Quinn the Eskimo, pwincessovfantasy.
Doesn't the world suffer enough without people denying love between two people? Love is love, how can it be evil?
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Marriage is About Love8% Voted for by silverlining, cosmosis.
Marriage is not about race. Marriage is not about age. It is not about disability. It is not about wealth. It is not about religion. It is not about sexual preference.
Marriage is about LOVE. It is about sacrifice, about commitment, about honesty and trust, about compassion, about dedication, about unity, and about feeling.
I dare anybody to prove that the feeling of LOVE can be made invalid by GENDER or something like SEXUAL PREFERENCE. How dare they argue that the sanctity of heterosexual marriage is threatened by homosexuals finally being legally permitted to express their love, dedication and passion for one another in marriage? What truly threatens marriages these days is rushing into it, being forced, about minunderstandings and intolerance.
Let others live their lives in peace, without trying to tell them how to show affection, marry and reproduce- just as they let you live your life.
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Wow...Voted for by TheTruence.
The first guy that talked was pure racist. U fucking bitch i otta burn u!. But i can tolerate gays but i dont think it is right. If everyone was all starting to be gay, whats the need for women...how are they gonna make our kids? People say ur born gay...thast what ive learned...but i beleive u cant. how cant u love a women, her smooth skin, her beautiful face, her personality(which is unlike any mans even though there are similatities). Think about it...
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cosmosis
November 25, 2005
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November 25, 2005
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HAHAHA
Weak you say? God Created Adam and Eve... Not Adam and Steve!!! And yes a true relationship is more than physical. But you must look at the way we were created to see the way it is supposed to be!cosmosis
November 26, 2005
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November 27, 2005
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WOW
1) Dinosaurs would go under land animals (how can you not figure that one) 2) God cursed the snake right? The snake had legs he cursed it to crawl on its belly, and eat dust. You took that out of context. Eat dust = so low to the ground the face is basically on the ground 3) It is possible God created other people like Adam and Eve. But Adam and Eve were the first. Besides God could have easily taken another rib from Cain to make his wife 4) Yes you are right Incest does lead to defects. But aparently you don't understand God's power. God can do anything, He does many many miracles. It wasn't Incest exactly. Incest is when you have relations with a family member and there are other options. But this was necessary to populate the earth. On the other hand back then life was different. Not as many pollutants and not as many diseases. Adam lived close to 1000 years old. things were different. Disease had not completely developed just yet, especially because it was new. And he does say straight out that homosexuality is wrong. Also take a look at Sodom and Gamora. In Sodom they were practicing Sodomizing (thus how sodomizing got its name) which as you know, can be known as anal sex. Gays practice Anal sex. The cities had become so currupt that God destroyed them. Now you try and tell me that Homosexuality is right if A) God says not to do it B) God shows us the example of how things are supposed to be by creating the 2 sexes And C) God showed his wrath on those who practiced Homosexuality. And my arguments IS STRONG!cosmosis
November 27, 2005
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Yes it does
The Bible does speak of Homosexuality, you must not be looking in the right places. I see you put scripture about Sodom. So here is another scripture Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." Genesis 19:4-5 See? MEN went to Lot, and asked to have sex with MEN! You can't say they didn't kjnow about homosexuality. one thing that you did say that i almost agree with is that homosexuality is keeping the population controled. I'm sure that is a fact. Also Jesus is saying there that cities in the future will get so currupt that Sodom and Gamora will look like good clean cities compared to them. And when you mentioned the verse from Ezekiel it says they did detestable things to me. What do you think the detestable things were? And yes the serpent was Satan. Satan had had his fall and he took on the form of a snake. And about the other humans existing. i never said i believed it. It is a possible theory!cosmosis
November 27, 2005
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November 27, 2005
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Wrong Again
it never says Rape (that may have been on their minds but you dont know that) But the men could have assumed that the Angels were gay, and that they were interested in anal sex. And if God is against lust and other perveted sexuality, he sure as heck is against homosexuality. Please stop taking things out of context and being a smart-alec and about the snake, in many cases God took things out on the whole nation of Israel instead of taking it out on one person or a small group of people.cosmosis
November 28, 2005
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wow, youre wrong....again (what a suprise)
ok first off, in the bible where it said "have sex with them" in the original version of the bible, the word was yadha, which means "to know" most english versions of the bible show it this way and yours is just messed up. it is ASSUMED by the reader that sex was on their mind so it is ok for me to assume that it was rape (it was attempted rape because the angels wouldn't have wanted to have sex with any mortals)ok, now lets pretend that it wasn't rape. if it wasn't rape then it would have been an act of promiscuity and lust. those two things are wrong whether they are GAY OR STRAIGHT! you can't compare that incident to a stable relationship between two men or two women. and by the way, that incident with the angels wasn't what caused god to destroy the city. im assuming you know the entire story so im just gonna go ahead and explain. 1)god sent the angels down to the city to warn lot his plan to ALREADY destroy the city. so whether or not the whole sex thing happened or not, the city was already doomed 2)the bible says that ALL THE MEN OF THE CITY FROM EVERY QUARTER WAS THERE and before that god said to abraham that 10 RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE COULDN"T BE FOUND. the sin of sodom COULDN'T of been homosexuality because not even ten righteous people could be found. so according to your logic, not even 10 people were straight, which i highly doubt 3)if the mob were all gay, why did lot offer up his virgin daughters to the mob? (note-offering up your daughters for sex is an abomination in leviticus)obviously lot would have known the sexuality of the townsfolk and he knew that they were all straight. so if you combine those three points with the bible passages i showed you (WHICH SPECIFICALLY STATE WHAT THE SINS WERE) it is quite obvious that the sin of sodom was NOT homosexuality. i mean, the bible itself flat out states that the sins were idolatry, pride and mistreating the poor and yet you are idiotically clinging to your belief that it was homosexuality which is based on vague bible passages. im not being a "smart-alec" alright. youre just mad because im proving you wrong and i am not taking things out of context. im supplying you with VALID PROOF that the sin was NOT homosexuality. also how can you relate lust and perverted acts to a loving relationship between two men or two women. love is the opposite of lust. so if god is agains lust, then he must be ok with a loving gay relationship.November 28, 2005
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You've Got Your Oppinion And I've Got MIne
Yes i know about Yahda, and when the Bible says 'to know' it means to have sex. Lot also offered his daughters so that violence would not erupt. These men prefered a homosexual relationship, but Lot also knew that if he offered his daughters perhaps the men would turn to their heterosexuality. You see men have a sexuality about them, its how we were affected by the fall of man. So men get turned on to their sexuality quickly. Lot obviously knew that Heterosexuality is the way life is supposed to be lived and he thought perhaps he could offer his daughters and still keep the angels safe. And yes the city of Sodom had become an all sexualy immoral city. Prostitution and homosexuality were its sexual sins. Sodom had become currupt. Also about those passages that give why Sodom was destroyed. Yes its true those sins you said are a few of the other reasons it fell. but it also says Detestable things. Sexual sin is detestable to God!!!! Homosexuality is a sexual sin!! and here is a definition. Sexual Sin - Engaging in a sexual activity that is not the way things are supposed to be. (I.E. Sex before marriage is a sexual sin) And I am not idiotically clining to my belief, You are. I understand you are entitled to your opinion but you need to learn that i am entitled to mine. I'm not sure if you know that. By the way I'm never gonna see it your way because i see obvious flaws. And how can i relate lust and perverted acts to homosexuality? The answer is simple and it is this; The definition of Perverted is - SHOWING STRANGE OR BIZARRE APPEALING or DIVIANT TASTES. Homosexuality is a strange taste! Its not the way things are supposed to be. And since you think that homosexuality is right, and the Bible supports it. Find a verse that says that Homosexuality is Right. Okay? You've managed to come up with some crazy ideas. I'm sure you can manage this onecosmosis
November 28, 2005
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November 28, 2005
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Look Here
First off your flaws are is you are twisting the Bible into the things you want it to say rather than what it really says. Second, you don't know for sure that rape wasn't on their mind, they may have all just wanted a giant gay orgy Third, about David and Jonathan. It says Jonathan loved David, yes that is correct. but what makes you think that it ment in a sexual way? It doesn't say that. Really they mean bortherly love, like the way you love your friends. Those two were brothers in the spirit, that is how they were 'knit' together. And of course David was considered part of the family, they were spiritual brothers, not gay lovers! And of course Saul would take action, he hated David, many times he tried to kill him!!!!! Of course God blessed their union as brothers! And if all your talk of 'original' hebrew is even true how did you get a copy of the original writings. Also Judas kissed Jesus on the cheek and according to you, you would probably suggest that judas was gay, right? Something tells me you are making alot of this up. Anyway, i see that you support gays and thats fine. But personally it doesn't make sense to me, and don't even try and make it make sense because i will never waiver from my true belief. Maybe you should pray about your beliefs and ask God to help you see clearer. Many times His word can be misinterpreted. And I'm sure you think i am misinterpreting it, but i know i am not, Perhaps my understanding of the Bible is not completely done maturing, but at least I understand truth from fiction.cosmosis
November 28, 2005
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November 28, 2005
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Definatly Don't Agree
Well you say that in the 'real' Hebrew version. The only thing that I know for a fact that you said is about Yahda thats all, and that is all i think that you said is true. Those times you said 'original' hebrew did you do the research and translate them yourself? Or did you find them on a gay website? You prolly found them on a gay website, well Gays do alot of things to try and be accepted and taken as normal people. Even if that includes re-writing God's Holy Scriptures to make themselves feel better or to be accepted, or to try and prove people like me wrong. And besides the passages you gave me are only the part that you talk about. maybe you should include the verses before and after it so that way you don't lose sight and mis-interpret it. Yes i have attended a wedding, but no not a gay one, for obvious reasons. And yes Ruth said that to Naomi, because they were spiritual sisters, they were not lesbians!!!! They were showing their loyalty as spiritual siblings. Another mis-interpret on your part. The only reason that is used in a wedding, or this like it are used is because they are simply recycling that phrase and changing its deeper meaning. Same words, different meaning. I am a Christian. I officially became one when i was 5 years old, which was 10 years ago. I'm guessing you are a gay Christian (sounds like an OxyMoron to me). And yes i do know that the word Homosexuality is never mentioned in the Bible. And since that is true how can you even begin to state that there were homosexual relationships in the Bible? Gays, or Homosexuality is not mentioned, but Homosexual is mentioned. I Corinthians 6:9 - Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders And No that doesn't mean people who offend other gay people. It means people who offend the Law against homosexuality It says right there homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Therefore Homosexuality is against God. It IS sin!!! It says it right there, BLACK AND WHITE!!!!! I think you should repent (if you are gay)cosmosis
November 28, 2005
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November 28, 2005
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See Here
Don't you understand that Paul used that words because all of the things it can be translated as are wrong, everything, homosexuality masterbation, etc. Your giving a typical if jesus doesn't say it isn't wrong. Jesus may not have said it because everyone knew it was wrong. besides Paul was visited by Jesus, so whatever he wrote was under the influence of the Holy Spirit. He was a disciple, not of the 12, but a disciple after them. Everything your saying makes no sense you dart from one thing to another. And I'm sure that the websites arent written by straight people, and if they are, they are gay supporters. And i will say this to you. If you find me where it says black and white that Homosexuality is good and not wrong, then i'd like to see it. but i'm sure we'll see that verse after Hell freezes over. Besides i just told you the verse where it says homosexuality is wrong. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker you do realize that right?cosmosis
November 28, 2005
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November 28, 2005
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I know about the Topic
And you just proved my point. The topic is, prove that gay marriage is wrong, besides the fact the Bible says so. Don't you get it, All the people here know that the Bible is against it. And you say my arguments are weaker but its the opposite i have been able to counter everything you say, forcing you to come up with new lies about how Homosexuality is good. Besides remember that sin entered the world after the fall of Man. God Created Adam and Eve. Homosexuality Did not enter into the works until after the fall of Man. Yet man and women were made before the fall. GOD WAS HINTING SOMETHING!!! God has revelaed that point to me. I don't know about you, but before I respond to you, i pray to God that he will help me show you your errors in interpretation. And i have shown you so many different ways, but you still are too blind to see the truth. Or maybe you just don't want to view the truth? I think Satan is using what your saying to try and cloud peoples minds. I just hope that no one takes what you say seriously. And Rome was very currupt, Even the Greeks practiced homosexuality in the form of bisexuality. Obviously the Greeks and Romans were destroyed because of curruption, kinda like a city in the Bible...maybe you have heard of it. Its called Sodom. Look another point about homosexuality. Its just discusting. Look at the HUman body again. How is a Baby Made? When a Man and Woman have sexual Intercourse. If Homosexuality were right, our bodies would be different. in such a way that we could reproduce and have a form of intercourse with BOTH sexes, not just one. If you dont agree again you are blind to see the truth. I really don't like debating unless its a good debate, and clearly we have both proven good points, but most of yours have seemed to be desperate searches for fake answers. Sorry, only what i believe.cosmosis
November 28, 2005
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November 28, 2005
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Well Here is 20
Perhaps you are right, you did prove my things wrong....but then i proved all of your points wrong (which i did) Look, i really hate this debate, you say I'm ignorant? You truely are the ignorant one here. I don't care about a Bible translation that makes homosexuality look alright, cuz thats not the real translation. It was simply made up. Besides, read the first part of I Corinthians 6 (6:1-6:10) It says black and white there that Homosexuality is wrong. Anyway, about everything after the Fall. you are right in the sense that not everything was bad, but most of it was, humans became so currupt so quickly that God had to send a flood to wipe out the creation he made, because of its evil. Not to mention that all of Noah's sons were straight not homosexual. Many instances throughout the Bible, Noah, Adam and Eve, Abraham etc. show the fact that homosexuality is not right. If it was right then there would be homosexuals in the Bible, but there are not, besides the currupt sinners. I believe that homosexuality is a sin. Because it is a sin, it is numbered in sexual immorality. If you don't believe that, than i don't care, whatever you want to believe you can, but in the end God will reveal all. All i can say is that i know i am right. If God had intended homosexuality to be right he would have said it, yet he does show how he is against it. Also i think it's funny. Whatever i say you say the same thing back to me. when i said you are weakening you said it back. When i said i was praying for God to open your eyes, you did the same for me. I am honored that you prayed for me, but i can't believe God would accept your prayer because of the fact you are homosexual. God knows you aren't right with him, he loves you. But i know God can't smile when he looks at you. You may say you are a christian, and you may personally be. But God knows you are truely lost. Thats my understanding. If you don't mind i really don't care for this discussion anymore. Hands Down, Homosexuality is wrong, If you don't believe so then fine. When you read the Bible and it says Homosexuality is wrong, you find ways around it like using the 'original' hebrew excuse. P.S. Animals aren't homosexual because God created them with instict of how things are supposed to be. And if you truely believe that animals do practice it, then you can think of this. When Noah was off the Ark it says 'The fear of man' was put in the animals. That means that the animals have changed also. Personally i don;t believe animals can be homosexual, like i said, because of instinct. Anyway i think this discussion is over, none of us won the Debate because we both countered and backed up our own good points. But one of us is wrong, and with the help of God he showed me who. I think God knew that you and i would debate on this board, I think personally this has helped me separate fact from fiction, it helped me realize that not everyone translate the Bible correctly, even me. No one can really solve all the mysteries of the Bible. But as for the ones that are mentioned, such as Homosexuality. They are shown to be wrong. I don't doubt that you are a Christian but because of your sexuality you may not be a true Christian, and for that i am sorry. I pray God blesses you, and more importantly you grow stronger in Him. and always remember. We are branches and we cannot bare fruit without him. Thanx for the Debate, Good Luck, and God Blesscosmosis
November 28, 2005
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one last comment, then im done.
the debate is over but i have to say one last thing before it is officially over. corinthians doesn't prove gays to be wrong. nomatter what you say, homosexuals aren't mentioned in corinthians whatsoever except for your version. there are gay animals just look it up at wikipedia. i know you don't believe there are gay animals but truly, i ask you as a fellow christian to go and check it out for yourself. to see it with your own eyes. the reason the bible doesn't show homosexuals (though i believe david was gay) is because the bible follows the geniology of jesus so they had to be straight in order to follow the family line. the bible doesn't say that you can't be gay and christian even though you think that. you didn't really prove all my points wrong. you never proved me wrong on the sodom, corinthian, animals and jesus not mentioning gays thing. i don't think homosexuality is a sin and i believe that it is part of gods diversity for all of the world. it was great debating with you and i guess that neither one of us will truly know who is right until we are both dead. so until then i agree with you that this discussion is at a draw.cosmosis
November 28, 2005
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one last comment, then im done.
the debate is over but i have to say one last thing before it is officially over. corinthians doesn't prove gays to be wrong. nomatter what you say, homosexuals aren't mentioned in corinthians whatsoever except for your version. there are gay animals just look it up at wikipedia. i know you don't believe there are gay animals but truly, i ask you as a fellow christian to go and check it out for yourself. to see it with your own eyes. the reason the bible doesn't show homosexuals (though i believe david was gay) is because the bible follows the geniology of jesus so they had to be straight in order to follow the family line? the bible doesn't say that you can't be gay and christian even though you think that. you didn't really prove all my points wrong. you never proved me wrong on the sodom, corinthian, animals and jesus not mentioning gays thing. i don't think homosexuality is a sin and that it is part of gods diversity for all of the world. it was great debating with you and i guess that neither one of us will truly know who is right until we are both dead. so until then i agree with you that this discussion is at a draw.November 28, 2005
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it is true that on each others points we didnt prove the other completely wrong, anyway i still dont believe the gay animal thing or that David was gay. you have your beliefs and i have mine. i agree that we will only know until we have reached heaven, i hope to see you there. anyway i hope to see you more on allphilosophy, but honestly allpoetry is my place. peace untill we meet again! by the way i'd love to hear from you now and then to see how you are doing, take care and God blesscosmosis
November 29, 2005
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February 13, 2006
Im getting sick of this stupid argument.
you guys can really go on and on, cant you? WOW! Now here are some verses that say that homosexuality is wrong. enjoy! Leviticus 18:22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Romans 1:27 " 'In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.' I Corinthians 6:9 " Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders that is all I have found so far, but there is most likely more. Don't say the bible doesn't say anything against homosexuality, because it does.cosmosis
February 13, 2006
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The Bible Was Written By A Bunch of Old Dead Guys
Hello? Why are you debating the bible? Nothing in that firewood is true. People who believe all of that shit are just plain ignorant. Those were a bunch of stupid laws that hardly have any basis in our legal system or lifestyles anymore. Why? Because they were written by a bunch of dead guys. Prove to me that anything in that crap is true. It isn't. Faith should be what you're arguing about. Nay, you shouldn't argue it at all. Who a person loves is none of your business, Mr. Hidden in whateverness. Go on and live your life and quit bigoting up others' lives, or like I did, others will come and bigot up yours. In that case, quit being so narrow-minded.September 10, 2006
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The Bible Was Written By A Bunch of Old Dead Guys
Hello? Why are you debating the bible? Nothing in that firewood is true. People who believe all of that shit are just plain ignorant. Those were a bunch of stupid laws that hardly have any basis in our legal system or lifestyles anymore. Why? Because they were written by a bunch of dead guys. Prove to me that anything in that crap is true. It isn't. Faith should be what you're arguing about. Nay, you shouldn't argue it at all. Who a person loves is none of your business, Mr. Hidden in whateverness. Go on and live your life and quit bigoting up others' lives, or like I did, others will come and bigot up yours. In that case, quit being so narrow-minded.TeChNoWC
September 15, 2006
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Empire of Dust
You are an organic meatbag. Degredation insists I must not believe you either. Keep the insults coming, because I have a lot in store for you. anti-religious strong athiests. If ever I were to have an enemy, you are it. Watch out for me on this site. Whatever you decide to give to my fellow theists, I will gladly give it straight back. I don't like you.petethemeat
April 9, 2007
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You jsut simply redefined killing.
Give a real answer.
Weydon
May 3, 2007
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Weydon
May 4, 2007
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That's like saying: IIII didn't drop my Jewish friend. He dropped me. For WHAT I BELIEVED. I still wanted to befriend him. He left me! I told him I hate Jews and think they're gross and an abomination, and when I tried to give him reasons why, he actually punched me. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT???
As much as I respect your determination/stubbornness, and attempts at finding something resembling scientific reasoning backing your beliefs--there are still a number of things you said that had we been in person, and had I not become a more peaceful person (partly inspired by studying more into the philosophies of other religions. how wrong they are indeed!), I also would have punched you. You say horribly degrading things that either make my blood boil or my heart weep.
May 12, 2007
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difference between partner and boyfriend eh? in the homosexual "world" partner is a long term relationship, and boyfriend is a new found love."
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Actually, I didn't have to tell trevor anything. As he knows my religion goes against it. And when I tried helping him, he turned away. This is what I said (not word for word, but close)
"Trevor, you can't do this. You know it will hurt you, and the consequenses of thease actions can hurt you really bad. You know I was once gay. And God helped me through it."
Then he interupts me with gibberish, and walks away angry.
No, a sexual partner is someone you just... well. ummm..... have a sexual intercorse with. There is no "romance" involved. It's just "getting some". while on the other hand, a "Boyfriend" is someone you devote yourself to, and\or also lustfully veiw.
Think of it this way, just because I have sex with someone, doesn't mean they are my girlfriend.
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those straight people Loved each one of those 10 people at the time of having sex. (yes, each one of us has more than one soul mate)
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Ok, if they really "loved" eachother, they would have been patient and waited untill marriage. If they aren't willing to commit eachother's lives to one another till they die, then it isn't true love. Just "like a lot, and want to bang em now".
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i freaked out on you because i know how damaging it is to lose a friend because you are gay. i dont hate christianity, actually a good majority of my friends are christians (one is a youth group leader and is involved in a church activity every weekend, another is about to leave on a mission to equador, another is on a mission in Paupa New Guinea). i hope you realize that having someone suddenly ignore you completely is much more painful than any punch to the face.
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I really don't know how that feels, as I became strait before I came out of the closet. But I do know how if feels to just suddenly get ignored. Trevor was really the first time It happened. Just kinda ignored me. I accepted him as a person though I don't accept his ways.
And he didn't punch me in the face. Just punched me in the chest, and walked away.
May 12, 2007
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difference between partner and boyfriend eh? in the homosexual "world" partner is a long term relationship, and boyfriend is a new found love."
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Actually, I didn't have to tell trevor anything. As he knows my religion goes against it. And when I tried helping him, he turned away. This is what I said (not word for word, but close)
"Trevor, you can't do this. You know it will hurt you, and the consequenses of thease actions can hurt you really bad. You know I was once gay. And God helped me through it."
Then he interupts me with gibberish, and walks away angry.
No, a sexual partner is someone you just... well. ummm..... have a sexual intercorse with. There is no "romance" involved. It's just "getting some". while on the other hand, a "Boyfriend" is someone you devote yourself to, and\or also lustfully veiw.
Think of it this way, just because I have sex with someone, doesn't mean they are my girlfriend.
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those straight people Loved each one of those 10 people at the time of having sex. (yes, each one of us has more than one soul mate)
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Ok, if they really "loved" eachother, they would have been patient and waited untill marriage. If they aren't willing to commit eachother's lives to one another till they die, then it isn't true love. Just "like a lot, and want to bang em now".
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i freaked out on you because i know how damaging it is to lose a friend because you are gay. i dont hate christianity, actually a good majority of my friends are christians (one is a youth group leader and is involved in a church activity every weekend, another is about to leave on a mission to equador, another is on a mission in Paupa New Guinea). i hope you realize that having someone suddenly ignore you completely is much more painful than any punch to the face.
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I really don't know how that feels, as I became strait before I came out of the closet. But I do know how if feels to just suddenly get ignored. Trevor was really the first time It happened. Just kinda ignored me. I accepted him as a person though I don't accept his ways.
And he didn't punch me in the face. Just punched me in the chest, and walked away.
Weydon
May 15, 2007
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Crazyhead
June 17, 2007
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mine was a joke about how that was a really uneducated comment....
Crazyhead
June 17, 2007
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mine was a joke about how that was a really uneducated comment....
Crazyhead
June 17, 2007
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my friend...killing is "wrong" because it gets in the way of another beings life...
if you look at laws thay are made to protect people from other people...
who is being hurt in a homosexual relationship?
if anything people who cannot open their eyes (the homophobes for example) ARE getting in the way of others lives...
so isn't being agaist homosexuality more wrong than supporting it?
Crazyhead
June 17, 2007
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my friend...killing is "wrong" because it gets in the way of another beings life...
if you look at laws thay are made to protect people from other people...
who is being hurt in a homosexual relationship?
if anything people who cannot open their eyes (the homophobes for example) ARE getting in the way of others lives...
so isn't being agaist homosexuality more wrong than supporting it?
likewhatitis100
October 11, 2007
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HOMOSEXUALITY IS ABUSE
Homosexuality is abuse.Human body is not designed for homosexuality. It is designed for heterosexuality.So, "The hidden darkness" is abuse right to you?
Crazyhead
April 28
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how in the hell does my being bisexual impede on your life in any way?
secondly.... what the hell does that have to do with what i said?
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