To most people its attention seeking, and in some forms it is. some people do it as a cry for help, and others do it to simply end there life of pain and suffering. to all those people going on about being suicidal.. GO AND GET HELP AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT!!!! alot fo peoples lives are way worse then yours, even thou they dont speak up about it, that is because they are suffering silently and dont want attention about it all, it does make you feel worse.. i know that for a fact. i think suicide is a selfish thing yesh.. but i only see that know after the all the pain and suffering i have put my loved ones through, i see it because some friends are going through it now.. a good friend is in hospital at the moment for trying to commit suicide. it has very devistating effects. It did teach me something thou.. it taught me that life is given to you for a reason.. it can you fuck you over sometimes but there is always a brighter side! they people who dont see the brighter side are the ones who end up not looking hard enough and ending it now.

But then hey what do i know?? im just some chick blabbering on about it. i know only just as much as you do.. as everyone does.. cause no one knows the truth on it.. they only have opinions!! but i do know one thing.... Suicide doesn't end the pain, it passes it on!!

the suicide tragectory leads a person down a path that enables them to first imagine, then consider, then finally act on the impulsive desire to cease their existence.

maybe that happens in a matter of seconds, or maybe it takes years.

i think no matter what the reason, there's always one simple truth at the bottom: happy people don't kill themselves. if someone is considering, attempting or succeeding in their suicidal behaviour, something in their existential situation is wrong enough to cause or allow a lot of unhappiness.

no one's life is perfect, and everyone's blue from time to time, but... the difference between a normal person and a suicidal person is the strength of their coping resources. even the strongest person will eventually succumb to the suicidal urge if they are placed in a situation which they cannot handle and are unable to find the resources they need to get out of it.

being suicidal is like being in a box with four walls closing in around you. if you or someone doesn't help you find a way out, it is only a matter of time, no matter who you are.

from my own experiences, of that of friends and family, i am convinced it has nothing to do with being cowardly, seeking attention, or even "choice" in the usual sense of the word.

suicide is a desperate solution to unbarable suffering which may or may not be temporary - at the time it is unbareable, it doesn't matter if it is temporary.

i think the biggest risk factors in falling to the end of the suicidal path are:

1. negative influences (peers, music, behaviour, belief system, etc..) 2. lack of support (to express and 'unload' emotionally)

but even if you avoid negative things and have lots of support, sometimes help isn't able to help.

it depends how deep the unhappiness goes, and how far down the spiral the person is. if they can find the will to walk back out, with or without help, they'll move on and get on with life. if they can't or won't, they'll continue down until they arrive at where this path is headed.

sometimes even when you can see it, you can't avoid it and may be powerless against it. i agree that no one truly wants to die - but the path can become like an addiction - as powerful as any drug - and just as devestatating in its end results.

How many people have suicided out of boredom?

worst part is i know i wont be the first and definitely not the last. wanna know why? coz there are too many fucking ppl on this planet. Instead of these dumb terrorists fighting over religion and shit, may be they should just blow up people becoz there are too many people.

that sounds pretty sane. atleast to me. ANd thats wat I m gonna do....

The human psyche is far too complex to associate it with animal instincts; as such, those instincts are devoid of rationalization. Since this is extraneous to the intent of my response, I will let sleeping dogs lie.

To me it is not feasible to establish a cause and effect relationship, from a generalized perspective. Indeed, from an analytical function, C&F relationships can only be established when dependent and independent variables are understood and definitively studied.

Baring the influences of chemical substance abuse and biological and psychological abnormalities, one may see a common denominator in the pervading sense of hopelessness. It is in the context that spiritually related concepts are focused, teaching that under a well rooted believe-system, a superior force will determine and alter expected outcome. “All things are possible through faith” (another element that unique to the human experience).

As an object, let’s take a fifty year old male. He is despondent. He loses his job as a manager, as his company relocates operations off-shore. He reluctantly decides to sell what both he and his wife refer to as their “dream home”. He relocates his wife and children to a new city that promises more opportunities in his field. Six months lapse, his unemployment benefits run out as he is unable to find suitable work. His wife continuously badgers him, as she keeps a watchful eye on the bank accounts, seeing that funds could be exhausted in the upcoming year, should he continue to be unfruitful in his career pursuit. The husband is diligent in his attempt to find work, and utilizes all of the professional services in his job search… not a single offer is tendered! He feels a growing sense of anxiety and betrayal as his wife continuously complains; this is coupled with the fact that she has not been gainfully employed for the full eight years of their marriage, and though the market for her skills are in greater demand, she remains reluctant to reenter the job market.

Then another bomb is laid on this man’s door step, as one day he returns home to an empty home. There are no notes or messages conveying the whereabouts of his wife and children, why they left, or for what duration of time they would be gone for. The next morning comes and the man reviews his on-line statements; he discovers large sums of money have been removed from his accounts. A bank investigation reveals that the money was transferred to another bank by his wife. After four days of searching he finally establishes phone contact with his wife, only to find that she has returned to their previous home town, a 1000 miles away... she informs him that she wants a divorce.
With his remaining holdings, he is left paying all the financial obligations, including the large home that they signed a one-year lease on.






Let’s take a synopsis of these events... note; this all transpires over the course of eight months.

-Lost career position
-Liquidated House
-Relocated Family
-Long-term unemployment
-Sudden and substantial removal of funds
-Sudden and unexpected loss of loved ones (separation of 1000 miles)
-Stressful legal proceedings
-Lawyers fees and court costs
-Further financial loss through division of assets
-Child custody issues (3 minor children)
-Divorce
-Child support

This is a rational man who’s experienced a simultaneous string of negative events, each in their own right are serous issues, significant causative factors for depression. This man is despondent. As he analyzes the complexity of these situations, he has a deepening sense that circumstances are well beyond his control. For one, in deciding to remarry he also decided to start a family again, and now has three minor children he is responsible for. As a courtesy to his second wife, he allowed her to quit her job, as it was her preference to be a stay-at-home-mom. Not only did he father three children, but they also had custody of his wife’s son. With a single income to raise a family of six, the only significant asset was their home, and little money was afforded for investments or retirement. Secondly, he is heavily experienced in manufacturing. This is an area that has seen significant job losses, with so much of the sector experiencing outsource and relocation to off-chore sites. Third is age. The current trend for discrimination is shifting down to around 45 years of age. It is not so much the traditional reasoning for discrimination, but there is an added concern of liability… the cost for a company to insure an aging person.

You can see that to consul such an individual is no small task. With the measure of business sense this man possess, you cannot white-wash the circumstances. His drive has been, and continues to be, a need for success. To the pragmatic financial issues, add in the emotional aspects of losing a wife that he was joyfully committed to, and children that he esteemed as part of this divine union, and you would not question his viewpoint that there is no resolve to be found (hopeless).

So in conclusion, the complexity of an individual’s plight must be understood before one can ascertain that a person has suicidal tendencies, as such, and get a vision of what is driving the thought processes. The person I have described has never made any attempt, and at times it amazes me when I consider all of adversity he continues to endure. But I also know it is a topic that he can speak on, profoundly. So I couldn’t say he’s out of the woods on this.