Is commiting suicide selfish? If you hate yourself so much then why should you deserve the easy way out? ...?
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both... selfish and escape9% Voted for by Neros Decay, SeeBreeze.
suicide at the point of commiting it, isn't selfish. to the person who toys with the idea of suicide it is merely an escape, often one they think is appropriate because they feel like no one cares. most of the time suicide is accompanied by the suicide note. this carefully worded letter usually is a spawn of guilt this person felt before going through with the act. in this sense we must realize that they identified suicide as an impacting event but never considers it selfish therefore leaving behind apologies, confessions, reasons, etc. personally, suicide is both selfish and "the only way". i do believe there are other ways to get through problems, and having been there myself know that there are people who can help. friends family doctors... suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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Look at it in another wayVoted for by Misfitdepressive.
If somebody contemplates suicide... it means they are seriously unhappy and life is hell for them!.. Do yew not see that it could be selfish to not allow suicide?
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Yes it is in my opinion.Voted for by God of War.
My friends have sometimes wonderd about suicied...I tell them that there wussy, becuase they want an easy way out of life...There is no easy way...You just keep on going...I tell them it's selfish to take away your life becuase some people don't like you. If they do take away their lives who will be left to take in that pain? Us. that's who..There mom and dads , family & friends.It's wrong....But thankful my friend has a goal in life so she's not thinking that way anymore.
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The People You HurtVoted for by itsnotme-imhiding.
Many of you are saying that suicide is selfish because a person who cmmits or attempts suicide is "hurting people who most likely dont deserve to be hurt." In many cases, the people who don't deserve to be hurt are the people who have forced this person to commit suicide. In other cases, they didn't even notice how screwed up this person was. At the very least, these people who don't deserve to be hurt deserve to lose the one they pushed away. Maybe through suicide or attempted suicide, these people who are completely innocent can learn to reach out and help others who are falling.
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People Hurt everyday.Voted for by queenofhearts22.
I don't believe that it is selfish. Think about it there are Millions of people in this world that don't have homes, that don't have families ,they don't even have friends.They think that know matter what they do their lives will just get worse. They feel empty, they eel alone that know one understand s them, and sometimes its not even that. Sometimes Its people that have everything in the world and there unhappy because they wish they could be like everone else. I understand what these people go through.I understand how they feel. I used to be one of them. I have tried it at least 4 different times. Wishing life would end but each time something happened that would save me . I relized that the ones that actually go through with it and succeed are brave. The one that brag about try each time they do try. they are th pussies. I am not proud of what i did but I have learnt from my mistakes.
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noVoted for by allaboutpoetry.
suicide can be selfish if its for a wrong reason.like capitol hill that man killed himself not because he felt bad but because he didn't want to go to jail.if someone comitts suicide because they are depressed and they feel that they can't stand the pain its not being selfish.cause deep inside you know that they are happy.
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No suicide is not selfishVoted for by firewitch.
When people chose to commite suicide they do not see the people who love and offen think that they would be better off with out them. Even though their friends and family try to tell them to them it is like this big black mist and it is surrounding them and they can not process that they have friends and family who love them and needs them
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Motive.Voted for by Crystalic.
It all depends on what reasons are behind it. Ultimately, it is considered selfish because it encourages suicide in others and delivers a great deal of pain to those who care about the victim. If a person commits suicide to heal their own pain, it could be considered selfish because there is more than likely a solution. People commit suicide to relieve themselves of pain, relief is a feeling, you can't feel much when you're dead, can you? I am not sure what a good reason would be, but I am sure there is one. There is always a ying and yang.
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SELFISHVoted for by LostWithoutYou14.
Suicide is selfish. Period. When you kill yourself you may think oh yeah then my life is over no one will care. Yeah wrong! Theres so many people that truely love you that you commiting suicide would effect. The people that you leave behind have to live with what you did to yourself, they have to live with the fact that you didnt care enough about them to resolve your problems (and trust me all problems are able to be resolved). So if you dont think that suicide is selfish then HELLO get a reality check and wake up! Cause you know what, suicide not only effects you, but everyone left behind..
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hurtfulVoted for by Carlos The Barlos.
Asking the question of whether suicide is selfish or not is just adding more hurt to the equation - not to mentiondegrading the ones who have killed themselves. selfish, selfish, it's selfish of people to be hurt by aperson who made a decision for themselves - maybe if pepole were more independant we wouldn't need to empower people to whine about how oh my goood how personally hurt they feel about something.
Ok, killing yourself while having kids is tough, for the kids, its just tough. Granted. Then again if such huge things as life and death can be labeled with the petty labels people are so fond of using, most likely you've misunderstood the issue.
Why would you call the dead selfish? Jesus, way to spoil a personality - VICTIM.
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GIVING UPVoted for by awesomemom85.
NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS SEEM...TOMMOROW AWAITS US WITH A BRIGHT NEW BEGGINING.A CHANCE TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
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The Selfishness of OthersVoted for by Seraphin Twin.
Although suicide is certainly a selfish act, the selfishness does not always end just there. I committed myself to suicide in February 2003 and was unsuccessful. It wasn’t a cry for help, as many people have convinced themselves, I truly needed to die.
Afterwards, everyone who knew about it would talk to me about their pain. What a terrible thing I’d done. How what I’d done had affected them. How they couldn’t forgive me for the hurt I’d caused. Really, they had taken ownership over my suicide and through this, were being equally selfish too. Furthermore, even though I would explain why I had done it, they would turn around and say, “didn’t you think about their feelings?” Didn’t I? Of course, I bloody did. I don’t imagine anyone goes down that route without contemplating the effects on others. I took time to envisage everyone’s reaction to what I’d done and weighed it up with why I needed to do it. I realised that I’d cause an enormous amount of pain but I also asked myself whether they’d demand that I continue my hopeless, agonising despair purely to keep them happy. And I certainly was not arrogant enough to think that I deserved to live – if I did why was every moment like torture?
Euthanasia (or assisted suicide), although still derided among some, is becoming more accepted in the western world but un-assisted suicide will never be. So, why do we understand the plight of the euthanasia patient more? The doctor/family/partner makes the decision to ease the physical suffering of the patient whereas the ‘suicidee’ takes the responsibility of easing their own personal mental and/or emotional suffering. Who is to say that one is more deserving than the other? I’ve never cried for pain, only for hurt. But, I’ll tell you, the heartache I had leading up to my decision did manifest itself physically – I could actually feel pain in my heart. I’ve spoken to some about this and, even though they would never contemplate suicide, they remarked having physically felt the same pain. Why shouldn’t I be allowed to relieve my suffering and give the world some more room for people who want to be here?
But I wasn’t successful. I couldn’t even do the one thing left that I needed to do. I took 120 morphine tablets. Enough to kill twenty people. But I got taken to hospital, they didn’t even pump my stomach as it was already in my blood. They tested my liver function and I was released after a chat with the psychologist. He asked me why I had attempted suicide and whether I would do it again. I told him that it seems that I’m doomed to be here and I better just get on with life, knowing that the life I used to love would never return. I would just commence the preliminary sketches for a new one.
I truly believe that part of me did die – my old life. That was never going to be resuscitated. The act was a metaphor for a kind of rebirth – in order to get on with the future, you have to let go of the past. I look at everything now as ‘pre’ and ‘post’ suicide. I find it a good way to look at life.
It’s been three and a half years since I committed myself to suicide and I’ll admit that it hasn’t been easy but life seldom is. But I’m not here to tell people what is right nor wrong. That’s for the individual to decide. I hope that my experience may provide some help, relief or understanding but ultimately not influence anyone to do something they are unsure they need to do at all.
I’ll leave you with a quote – When you judge other people remember one overriding axiom: 'Everybody is having a hard time'. Everyone is insecure. Everyone is hassled. Everyone is tired - we all need more sleep. Everyone wishes he had more courage, more money and better social skills. Everyone wants more glamour in his life, and we all desperately need more laughter. Few can figure out how they ended up living the life they lead. Don't be misled by flippant talk; it's a battle for everyone... Give people a break. It's not easy doing a life. - Joshua Halberstam in Everyday Ethics
PS – Please don’t leave any comments about god here. The last thing anyone contemplating suicide needs is having some pious, self-righteous preacher telling them they’ll go to hell. Suicidal people are not afraid of ‘hell’ they’re already experiencing it.
Peace
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uhuhVoted for by ILIKECHEESE.
well am thinkin ryt that ppl shud just buy a gun if its that bad yeah and STICK SOME CHEESE IN IT
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What if one has children?Voted for by surf rider.
I do think its selfish in some cases. If one has children, it may be better for them and it may be not. The things that you never know. Who would leave their little child alone for a long time? If we don't think its good then how can we talk of suicide?
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They know what they do.I was suicidal. I had depression. I was all these things because someone in my life killed themself. It is selfish. The only reason I didn't end it was because I never wanted anyone to have to endure the pain of suicide.Voted for by TearsThatBleed.
When someone you love and admire and respect kills themself, all you feel is guilt. Everything reminds you of them. Its not just a death. You can never forget. EVERYDAY you just imagine what they felt and since I don't know how she did it, I imagine it. Everyday I picture what she might have done, and no option makes it right.
There is a case with sheer insanity and not an understanding of death. But she knew what death was. She F***ing gave up on everything! She knew she would die and she just wanted to leave and get away. She was not strong enough to keep going, or she thought she wasn't, but obviously if she is strong enough to deny the main instinct that humans have "Stay alive" then she was strong enough to live.
She was the only person I trusted, the first person that introduced that word and feeling to me...And she lied...
Suicide is damn selfish. YOU, who are suicidal and think that everyone just needs to piss off and leave you alone. Imagine killing yourself and having the pain that you feel...plus guilt and sheer sorrow passed on to everyone that loves you!
The Grieving Never Ends by Roxanne Roberts
Studies show that their grief will be more complicated, more intense and longer lasting than for any other form of death in the family. They will receive less support and more blame from others. Some will never really get over it: Children of suicides become a higher risk for suicide themselves
There are the legacies of suicide: guilt anger, doubt, blame, fear, rejection, abandonment and profound grieving.
Think of your life as a can of white paint. Each significant experience adds a tiny drop of color: pink for a birthday, yellow for a good report card. Worries are brown; setbacks, gray. Lavender is for a pretty new dress. Over time, a color begins to emerge. Your personality.
When a suicide happens, someone hurls in a huge glob of red. You cant get it out. You cant start over. The red will always be there, no matter how many drops of yellow you add.
When did things start falling apart? Or were they ever really together?
I hope you'll never know how true these words are.
Much love
Bye bye be safe! 1-4-3! Miya (That's me!) -
both... dependingif you want to commit suicide then you obviously think that no1 atuall loves you and no1 would care if you killed yourself so to the person doing it in some to most cases they do it because they truly believe the world would be a better place without them because maybe no1 has tried hard enough to help them but i always say that you cut because you don't know what to do and they let you because they don't know how to stop you...it does.nt mean they dnt love you. it can work with suicide as well. there are those people hu do it because they just cnt live anymore that life is so bad that they can't stand it. but here is a time in everones life when they have to be selfish otherwise we would all end up unhappy. i don't think it is selfish as such but i do think that it can be cowardly. being there myself and having experienced what you think when you do contemplate suicide... i strongly believe that an act cannot be selfish if the one performing the act believes it selfless....i recovered and shit though obviously and i am happy but some people might never have that.so living to them would be a torture. would you really want to hurt someone that much?Voted for by XInSaNiTy-FaIrX.
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I think...coming from knowing someone who is struggling with wanting to commit suicide, that even STILL, I would find it extremely selfish on one hand, and the empathy in me understands in some way on the other hand. It's a double edged sword either way, no pun intended. I myself find it a quick fix to a mountain of problems that have made them get to this point. But isn't it fair to say we all have endured some sort of pain, some loss, some tragic event that has made us feel like running away, leaving the world even if by our own hands...of course I'd think it to be a bit abnormal if someone has NEVER had those thoughts. However, with that being said, would I personally ever do it? Absolutely not. To me, I feel it's a matter of will, a matter of mind, and sometimes even gathering whatever bit of courage you have left to say "To hell with it, I'm staying and going to fight this out". It's not always easy for those who take the other route to think in this manner, so of course it is going to seem a selfish and easy out. And to those they leave behind, it is going to affect SOMEONE. I would disagree with you to the ends of the Earth for those that said the people would NOT be heartbroken and upset, or just for a little bit and then get over it. That's a mean and heartless thing to even say. As far as being able to recognize it and being a bad person or friend for not being able to stop them or coerce them into not doing it, that's unfair of a statement as well. Not everyone goes around waving flags and bells that they have decided hey, today, I'm gonna be done with living. It's not always a choice, death....some of us go before we wanted to, kicking and screaming and to those, it's unfair that they were taken before they were "ready" as in with suicide, usually the person is ready to go, has made up their mind, and there's no going back. (although let me reiterate I'm not including those with mental disabilities, that's a whole new can of worms do we really wanna open that up too!) Will my friend leave me someday? I sure as hell hope not..and if they do, I can tell you with total honesty that I would be upset and angry, because here I am, no one's life is going to be perfect...pain is what makes you feel, it deviates and allows you to recognize happiness, they are both intertwined, and when you separate only the pain, it can be devastating. yes, some of us might say there are people who never experience happiness, but I disagree. Then again, it's easy if you find happiness in the little things, not some huge event. And, lastly, it's all about how they perceive and choose to react to things. Sometimes life really hits you hard, turns you over upside down, and shakes you till you feel like you can't go on...Who is the "stronger" one? It's all in perception. If you have ever attempted and turned back or failed or however you wanna call it, then you probably realize most that perhaps it wasn't meant to be that way, or maybe you are glad you are still here...life has a funny way of turning around in the blink of an eye, and the ones who go away for whatever reason by their own waking choice, that in itself is a self-based decision, hence selfish, but we all are selfish to some degree. But to what degree are you? That's my thoughts on it.Voted for by strangeillusion.
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Whos selfish?One could just as easily be labelled selfish and self centered by identifying themselves as the victim of someone elses suicide. A victim of a suicide victim. Suicide is the result of disease (dis-ease). People are committing suicide everyday, but more slowly. Through their dis-ease they smoke, eat crap food, but the result of their (self centered) un-ease is death.Voted for by grant.
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Of course not.No. It is not selfish. If someone feels so horrible that they would rather not exist then deal with what they have, I feel horrible for them. Suicidal people have a problem. And saying "Your being selfish" is NOT going to help. I mean, come on, they tell you this in Psych. 101!Voted for by Patrick1.
When someone is at the point of suicide, they are in trouble and need serious help. Severe depression is not something that they asked for, and I assure you they don't want it. But to say they are selfish because the disorder they have is forcing them to believe life is not worth living is not only ignorant, it's damn cold.
Trust me, not many, if any, of the people who kill themselves mean to be selfish and hurt those they love. They had been very ill, and needed help. -
Burn in HellAll people who have commited suicide or are contemplating suicide will burn in Hell!Voted for by billybobby.
But at least when they are gone we won't have to listen to their incescant whinging!
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