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Abortion--wrong or right?

I believe abortion is wrong. And so is the legal system dealing with abortion.

For example: If a person murders someone, it's one count of murder. If a person murders a pregnant woman, it is two counts of murder. If a woman gets an abortion, it is legal. Why is this not thought of as murder?


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  • Some logic please

    Let us add some logic to the issue. First of all let’s have a clear understanding of what the “woman’s body” is. When we hear those activists claiming that “It’s my body… I can do what I want with it” I assume, and will grant, that they have the intelligence to actually mean “It’s part of my body, and therefore I will do what I want with it.” But lets look closer. Webster so eloquently defines part as “ne of the often indefinite or unequal subdivisions into which something is or is regarded as divided and which together constitute the whole (2) an essential portion or integral element.” So then what we can assume that those women are meaning is that this growth in their uterus is an integral and essential part of their being, without which they will be incomplete. Right? Or do they simply not know how to tell the difference between something that is them, and something that is in them. Do we call germs “part” of us or viruses, or the penny we swallowed as a child. No. So then, as a “fetus” is not a functioning part of her being, then we must admit that it is not “my body, so I can do what ever I want with it.” So then, the baby, or fetus, for those who prefer killing those instead of babies, is a separate entity. Let’s look at a baby 10 minutes after it is born. What has changed from 20 minutes before concerning what it is? Well just a few basic things. On some miniscule scale size is different, the location is different, it has more experience (time makes that unavoidable), and I suppose its overall level of intellectual development has changed. Now, any child at, say, the age of three would have certain dimensions that we could measure and record. Five years later if we measure that same child, those dimensions are going to change, and unless we do something to alter that, it will be inevitably so, because what that child was at three (thinking mainly of genetics) caused him to be what he was five years later. What the abortionist must therefore conclude that the boy is more human at eight years then at three, and therefore it is more acceptable to kill people who are lighter, shorter, and thinner that to kill people who are heavier, taller and fatter. To follow this logic (for the humor) it may be that the tallest, fattest, heaviest person on earth has the right to kill anyone lesser than he, for he is “more human!!” So then, we must conclude two things (unless we want to use that awful standard for rights to kill) one, that size has nothing to do with humanity (and therefore the right to kill) and two that a boy being bigger at eight years than at three is no different that a baby being bigger at 8 months than at three. The size at the eights was determined by what they already were at the threes. I’ll go lighter on the others. Am I less human because I’m in my house and not outside? If I could get outside of the “outside” would I be even more human yet? Does my humanity change as I move from Paris to New York? Do I need to continue? Obviously, location has nothing to do with humanity, so in a uterus or out, who cares, the object is the same both places. Is my Grandma more human than I because she has experienced more of this thing called life? Do I need to proceed with twenty questions on this one too? So then, the quality, quantity, and diversity of experience have nothing to do with humanity. Intellectual development. No one will deny that babies are pretty unrefined in their intellectual capabilities, but what does have to do with humanity? To accept this argument, the Einstein’s of this world are superior humanity to the rest of us (and therefore, according to the abortionists, have the right to kill us). And come again, the senile folks sitting in a retirement home who are easily confused, or who can’t remember important things, like what their first car was, are also less human and ought to be killed as well. Or, we can reject this too, as grounds for destroying babies. Well, I guess that leaves us with little choice. Fetuses become babies which become children, which become adults, which become elderly folk. I can’t see any reason (justice aside) for killing someone at any given stage, just because they have not reached the next yet. Call it what it is, 1’st degree, premeditated…

    14%  Voted for by nonameusa, Dwn, ssmarshmallow.
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  • either way it is wrong

    Even if you are raped killing the child is not going to help. You can give him/her up for adoption, you do not have to raise them. If you are stupid and have sex, if you get pregnant it is your responsibility to take care of that child. I fyou kno you cannot, give them up for adoption If i was pregnant, i would never have an abortion, even if i had been raped because that child still has a right to live. Or if it was going to kill me to have the child, i would die bringing that child into this world, they diserve life, i already have a taste.

    Voted for by Youallareposers.
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  • IT IS THE STUPID MOTHER'S CHOICE

    Yes indeed. If the mother does not want her baby. thereby disgracing herself in front of God and her family and relatives and friends, that is her choice. Its EVEN her choice if she wants to kill her child.

    ANY WOMAN WHO WANTS TO HAVE AN ABORTION SHOULD SUFFER THE CONSEQENCES! DIE! DIE! DIE!

    Voted for by drkbrdmstr.
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  • I vote to remove this topic from this heading

    I don't believe abortion is wrong in all instances. I do not believe it should be used as Birth Control, but we need to be able to choose what happens with our bodies.

    I disagree with the discussion of Abortion under the "murder" category. There is an Abortion section. Placing this under the Murder category is insulting, and disrespectful to ANY woman who has had the unfortunate but sometimes necessary procedure. I vote it be removed from this heading.

    Voted for by Wisteria.
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  • it depends

    if the mother's life is in danger, then abortion becomes right. otherwise, i consider it unjust and immoral because it's like having the child pay for the consequences of his/her parents' impulsive behavior.

    Voted for by kensdream.
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  • abortion is right

    I believe that abortion sometimes is the only choice. If you say that abortion is wrong you must say that contraception or not having sex in the first place is wrong. Why does it matter how far the baby has developed either way a baby is prevented from living which is usually a good thing.

    Voted for by metal15.
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  • more than just about abortion

    Promote the single life. Lets help the people we have. Selfish? No I dont think so because if I had a family I would take care of my family. Of course a better job market would always help, financial security. If you cant get a job then you should be able to obtain welfare until work is gained. But then again there will always be unemployment because business only hires what they need, unless the government steps in to help create work and ,or welfare.

    Voted for by teraswu.
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  • Only In The Case Of Rape

    Only in the case of rape do I think that is acceptable, even then I doubt I could do it. But giving birth puts the mothers life in risk to. I dont think that is wrong in any other scenario because it is murder, though it is. But I think its just very irresponsible.

    Voted for by Sot Helvete.
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  • Abortion

    I think abortion should be more about choice for the mother and not about wrong or right because I think the fetus is only life like the liver and heart but it doesn't know that it exists. But where a pregnant woman's baby dies as a result of some accident then that can constitute something more because the woman was trying to bring the fetus to term and not wanting it to be gone.

    Voted for by Beena.
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  • Read for reliable reasons...

    First you got to understand that Abortion is NOT murder, I do not care if you are talking politics or religion. If the mother were to die (anytime in any trimaster), the baby will die as well, thus it does not have it's own life. Therefor, NOT murder. Second, if the right to have an abortion is exiled, what's next? No freedom to speak, no right to fair trial, I mean these fall in exact lines to politics and religion. Third, if Abortion does become illegal, the US Government is going to have to deal with extreme rise in teen suicide (adults too). The baby "dies" anyway.

    Voted for by street-crazy.
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  • ............

    There are people who dissagree on whether a fetus is really a human being before a certain age, whatever age you think this is determines whether you think the abortion is wrong in a given situation.

    Voted for by ytyt.
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  • Choice

    All of life is about choices. Whether or not to use birth control, have premarital sex, keeping an accidental child. Who has the right to tell you what to do with your body other than yourself? The decision is your's. I believe everybody should have the opportunity to do and say what they believe without violent actions.

    Voted for by FlawedSoul.
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  • Let Women have Control over their own bodies

    Yeah try telling that to everyone - If you're not ready to get pregnant do not have sex. These days kids as young as 15 have already engaged in sexual intercourse without knowing the real facts.

    Sex is so much a part of todays society rich men have their callgirls, college girls have their wild nights, people have sex with no strings attached and any mention of pregnancy doesn't come into it. That's because of the contraception available.

    I've also seen women yelling and screaming at their children, swearing at them and saying things like "I wish I never had you". Broken families with alcohol and drug abuse, children growing up with no food to eat. Growing up in depression.

    When I was on a holiday in Sri Lanka my parents and I stopped at a small cottage to buy some vegetables. There was a dirty looking man and his wife who had 6 children around her and she was pregnant with the 7th, these children were unable to go to school and the family had a hard time providing for them but, they kept having more and more breeding and breeding like they had nothing better to do. I swear I saw that look in the man's eye which led me to believe he thought he was king shit and the wife? She looked so tired.

    These children will probably die of a lack of food or from disease, yet these people were bringing one after the other into the world without a second thought to their future. Isn't that wrong? and what about in more developed societies doesn't that happen also? people breeding unecessarily. Its selfish and more cruel than having an abortion.

    For women who actually think things through and think they are not ready to be mothers, who the hell has the authority to say otherwise? People on the pill have been known to fall pregnant, it happens. Abortion should be an option kept open for todays society for people who do care about the fate of their future and their children's if they were to have one when they were ready. To have an abortion is a decision never taken lightly just like the decision to have children in todays society shouldn't be taken lightly .

    Children deserve to be born with parents that love them and are ready to accept the long term responsibilities of caring for them to bring them up to be good people. Children should not be brought up by people who are in waay over their head, scared and confused or are just mindless breeders.Children should not be brought up by people who weren't ready for them, who didn't want them. Because this is just going to spawn anger and resentment.

    Christianity shouldn't say abortion is murder because I also agree, the KKK commit murders in the name of God. It is true Christianity is not in any position to judge what is murder. The war on Iraq is stupid its murdering many living breathing, THINKING, FEELING humans and people are getting so fired up about a fetus without any of these.

    Women should be free to have control over their own bodies. Some women believe in abortion and others dont, but please for the people who believe it is murder DONT call women who have abortions murderers. If you believe it is murder then it is murder to you if you yourself commits such an act. We have been told we are free and equals then the governments should prove it by keeping abortion clinics open and letting us use our brains to decide.

    To bring an unwanted child into the world is like murder!!! Its wrong, just like a girl getting gang raped and made to carry the perpetrators child to full term. I personally think bringing a child into the world without love is worse than murder because it affects the child for the rest of their life.

    Oh and if my parents had an abortion - I wouldn't be here, hence I wouldn't think, I'd be nothing, no feeling, no emotion Nada. I'm just a result of their decision and trying to think how hurt i would be if they aborted me....well I'd be nothing so I wouldn't think.

    In closing I think abortion should never be seen as a ticket to hell or murder. I'm old enough to spread my legs (hehehe I just remembered my login name rofl) but I'm also old enough to decide I dont want children and am going to take all necessary precautions to prevent myself from falling pregnant. To have an abortion or not is our own personal decision, I myself would never want to be in that position where I have to choose.

    To let a child grow up without love - thats wrong. The right to life campaign makes us forget our own lives, I know its selfish but thinking of ourselves before our "unborn child's?" might just saves ourselves and the quality of life for future children.

    Voted for by thrawn.
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  • A neutral Interpretation.

    In all honesty, when this topic comes up everyone automatically puts themseleves first. The baby should be the priority in the matter and what is the best situation for the baby. In anycase whatever happened to conceive the child- may it be by a horrible circumstance or an incidental one if the child is going to be born to parents that are not ready mentally ready to bring a child up let along financially ready the best for the baby is that it does not exist. Abortion is the final solution. Better not to let it get that far on to be honest.

    Voted for by -xxstitchesxx-.
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  • I think

    I think it is the mom's choice... I don't think that it should be 'because they don't want a child,' before any doc should endeavor that, there should be high circumstances... Like if the couple can't afford it... Or if a ten year old child got raped and is now pregnant... Something like

    Voted for by joshuada.
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  • energy of which

    We are nothing more than energy with a directed stimuli.

    Right and wrong will always be deadlocked due to the diversities of the world.

    I've never been in the position of having to make such an intimate decision about my body and two lives, both of which are the subject of question for reasons out of my area of knowledge.

    One fact will remain: Legal or not, abortions will continue to take place. I'd rather see it happen in a safe environment with professional results.

    Voted for by Order of Chaeronea.
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  • Both Right and Wrong

    I believe that abortin is alright until the pregnancy gets to a certain point and the babay is nearly fully formed and can feel everything you do to it to kill it... If the woman got raped then she should have the choice of getting rid of it cos could you imagine if you had to keep it and everytime you had to look at it you'd remember the terrible thing that happened to you and if you gave it up for adoption then you'd feel terrible for not loving it. If the child was going to be handicapped and cant do anything for itself i think you should have an abortion if you dont think you could cope with the responsiblity, that child might totally wreck your life...you'd have to spend every waking moment looking after that kid, even when you are like 85. I understand why some people will keep their kids if they are handicapped because you can get help from social services but some people just arent that strong andcant handle the responsibilty and then that kid will never really get the full love that it needs cos the mother will blame it from destroying her life. When the prengnancy gets to about 18 weeks the way the baby is killed is barbaric and i dont think the abortion/pregnancy stage allowence should be so high because babies can be born at 24 weeks and that is the point up to which women can get an abortion in the UK and thats just wrong...

    Voted for by AnnaJayne.
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  • WRONG

    It doesn't matter weither your raped or not..Having an abortion is MURDER!! your killing another human bring..and you should be punished if you go through with an abortion...there is this thing called adoption. which is if u dont want the child then u can give it up..but if u dont want the child then you shouldnt of had sex in the first place because the child deservies to live you shouldnt have the choice to KILL it just because you dont want it....DONT HAVE SEX if u dotn want kids!!!

    Voted for by xbethx.
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  • either way it is wrong

    Even if you are raped killing the child is not going to help. You can give him/her up for adoption, you do not have to raise them. If you are stupid and have sex, if you get pregnant it is your responsibility to take care of that child. I fyou kno you cannot, give them up for adoption If i was pregnant, i would never have an abortion, even if i had been raped because that child still has a right to live. Or if it was going to kill me to have the child, i would die bringing that child into this world, they diserve life, i already have a taste.

    Voted for by Youallareposers.
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  • Logic please

    Let’s add some logic to the issue. First of all let’s have a clear understanding of what the “woman’s body” is. When we hear those activists claiming that “It’s my body… I can do what I want with it” I assume, and will grant, that they have the intelligence to actually mean “It’s part of my body, and therefore I will do what I want with it.” But lets look closer. Webster so eloquently defines part as “ne of the often indefinite or unequal subdivisions into which something is or is regarded as divided and which together constitute the whole (2) an essential portion or integral element.” So then what we can assume that those women are meaning is that this growth in their uterus is an integral and essential part of their being, without which they will be incomplete. Right? Or do they simply not know how to tell the difference between something that is them, and something that is in them. Do we call germs “part” of us or viruses, or the penny we swallowed as a child. No. So then, as a “fetus” is not a functioning part of her being, then we must admit that it is not “my body, so I can do what ever I want with it.” So then, the baby, or fetus, for those who prefer killing those instead of babies, is a separate entity. Let’s look at a baby 10 minutes after it is born. What has changed from 20 minutes before concerning what it is? Well just a few basic things. On some miniscule scale size is different, the location is different, it has more experience (time makes that unavoidable), and I suppose its overall level of intellectual development has changed. Now, any child at, say, the age of three would have certain dimensions that we could measure and record. Five years later if we measure that same child, those dimensions are going to change, and unless we do something to alter that, it will be inevitably so, because what that child was at three (thinking mainly of genetics) caused him to be what he was five years later. What the abortionist must therefore conclude that the boy is more human at eight years then at three, and therefore it is more acceptable to kill people who are lighter, shorter, and thinner that to kill people who are heavier, taller and fatter. To follow this logic (for the humor) it may be that the tallest, fattest, heaviest person on earth has the right to kill anyone lesser than he, for he is “more human!!” So then, we must conclude two things (unless we want to use that awful standard for rights to kill) one, that size has nothing to do with humanity (and therefore the right to kill) and two that a boy being bigger at eight years than at three is no different that a baby being bigger at 8 months than at three. The size at the eights was determined by what they already were at the threes. I’ll go lighter on the others. Am I less human because I’m in my house and not outside? If I could get outside of the “outside” would I be even more human yet? Does my humanity change as I move from Paris to New York? Do I need to continue? Obviously, location has nothing to do with humanity, so in a uterus or out, who cares, the object is the same both places. Is my Grandma more human than I because she has experienced more of this thing called life? Do I need to proceed with twenty questions on this one too? So then, the quality, quantity, and diversity of experience have nothing to do with humanity. Intellectual development. No one will deny that babies are pretty unrefined in their intellectual capabilities, but what does have to do with humanity? To accept this argument, the Einstein’s of this world are superior humanity to the rest of us (and therefore, according to the abortionists, have the right to kill us). And come again, the senile folks sitting in a retirement home who are easily confused, or who can’t remember important things, like what their first car was, are also less human and ought to be killed as well. Or, we can reject this too, as grounds for destroying babies. Well, I guess that leaves us with little choice. Fetuses become babies which become children, which become adults, which become elderly folk. I can’t see any reason (justice aside) for killing someone at any given stage, just because they have not reached the next yet. Call it what it is, 1’st degree, premeditated…

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