I’m asking for a brief answer; can you build a building without ground floor? you cannot. how can you build a theory without explaining the origin of first living organism? Give me a logical answer.
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vote: Evolution, because - Creation: i don't need proof: here's proof! pfft.11% Voted for by redbrita, mercenary, ExpensiveThinker.
creationism: the *unquestioning* acceptance of God etc. evolution: exploring where all these living things came from. it is referred to as a theory. religion doesnt ask for proof, it asks for faith. science uses evidence to form theories, AND TO DISCARD THEORIES, and yet religion feels the need to take these theories and try and prove to themselves how they don't need to prove anything!
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Creationism Is Utter Idiocy, And There Is No Argument For It In Any Way.7% Voted for by UpsideDownFrown, ExpensiveThinker.
Plain and simple. Whine all you want, complain about how atheists are "messed up in the head" (quoted from above), but in the end, science beats creationists at every turn.
What creationists have done is taken every undiscovered piece of evidence from evolution, and used it as the basis for their own ignorance. Unfortunately, you can not build a new theory simply on a lack of evidence: I can find every unexplained artifact throughout history and say that it came from Atlantis, but as I have no evidence except for a vacuum of proof, it isn't a theory, its' a sheer, unbased guess.
And thats' exactly what creationism is. Only, creationism is so vile and evil an idea that not only does it build its "case" on a lack of evidence, but it actively spits in the face of currently existing evidence from other fields. The fields of geology, anthropology, astronomy, astral physics, geological mechanics, biology, chemistry, biochemistry, zoology, and every other natural science all agree with the simple truth of evolution.
Creationists actively detract from truth.
Evolution has been observed and recorded here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-bib_query?bibcode=2000MNRAS.314..546M&db_key=AST&data_type=HTML&format=
http://www.evolutionhappens.net/
http://www.origins.tv/darwin/transitionals.htm
There are thousands of others, and it is simple fact. When a situation arises which does not suit a currently existing life form, members of that life form die out except for those with a mutation that allows them to survive. When oxygen became less abundant in earth's atmosphere 60 million years ago, those with larger lungs designed for a higher-O2 capacity atmosphere died out, while smaller animals were adapted to survive. It is a simple matter of balancing genes. A toddler can figure it out, as long as his mind isn't clouded by the utter idiocy of religion.
Anyone who says "there is no evidence for evolution" is a fool. I can explain to you in a matter of minutes; I picked up on it in one fifty-minute biology period. Try putting down the Bible, the junk food, the TV remote, and the Reverand Phelps weekly, and pick up a goddamn school text book.
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Creation Vs. Evolution7% Voted for by Screaming Chimera, ExpensiveThinker.
Well i can tell you now, the creation theory is bogus. Theres plenty of evidence that surgests Evolution. lets take one example out of history: Neanderthols, where the pre-lude to home-sapians - we evoled into something better from them. hmm.. another: The subseqent rise and fall of entire species due to climate change and adaptation.
please do not say adaptation has nothing to d o with evolution, it has almost everything to do with it. It's what evolution is all about, Adapting to becomeing the best at what it is we do, whilst surviving in whatever enviroment we find ourselves in.
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It is like disbelieving in the Holocaust.7% Voted for by Singes06, leggomyeggo.
Alrite, the best analogy I can make for a disbeliever of evolution is like a person who believes the Holocaust was made up. It is hard to think of a thought that disbelieves so many prominent systems of science. Biology, anthropology, paleontology, geology, molecular biology… Another apt analogy would be to liken creationism to such psuedo-sciences as astrology, or something like the flat earth assumption, or something like the anti-germ theory.
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Evolution Is Real7% Voted for by Psyche, ExpensiveThinker.
Evolution exists, and can therefore be believed to have always existed because of its basic nature. These are matters of undeniable fact. For example:
I see a forest filled with brown moths. I believe that they are brown because the trees are brown, and they evolved to hide from preditors by laying against the tree. However, a plague hits the forest and turns all the trees grey. Such a pity, but the brown moths begin to be eaten because they cannot hide. Those moths better suited to the trees (greyish moths) are not eaten and therefore have offspring. What color is the offspring you ask? Grey. After only one decade, I come back to this same forest to find a new moth. The brown moths have evolved into grey moths. It happened.
These are matters of undeniable fact, and evolution exists. Whether it’s all that exists, well, I cannot say. Ask a preacher…they know everything.
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the stupidness of creation7% Voted for by Kazrith, ExpensiveThinker.
i dont get it. if god just decided there was going to be man, what was man made out of? as to go off of a comment someone said, you need ingredients to bake cookies. evolution gives the ingredients, where as creation gives you a cookie that was made out of nothing, how is this supposed to happen?
the protoplanet hypothesis explains the creation of life, and so does the bible, just without steps.
and finally your oppinion is only based on how close or far you are to religion. for me it just complicates live
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All a matter of filling in the gaps, constantlyVoted for by Just Paper.
Creation, probably a myth used to make death easier. It became popular, and grew.
Look at Star Wars...George Lucas can say anything he wants about the character's in Star Wars past and you have to believe it, because you dont know. A Priest can say anything about the Human past and we will believe it...because we just dont remember.
Always, Sam
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Not creation OR evolution, but creation AND evolutionVoted for by justonewish.
Let me start this by saying that the argument between creation and evolution is a somewhat silly argument.
Mmkay, so I heard somewhere that evolution HAS been proven. But not macroevolution. Supposedly it has been proven that micro-organisms evolve, but has not yet been proven for other organisms. I don’t know if that’s actually the situation, but hey, if it’s been proven then it’s been proven. It’s there and you can’t argue with it. Another argument for evolution: Does no one remember all of the Egyptian mummies supposedly having an average life of about four to five feet, and those being ADULTS? I think that is strong evidence for evolution. Why else would we be taller after a few thousand years? And yet another argument.. do we have any evidence that there were animals such as chickens or.. well, humans existed millions of years ago? No, but we have evidence of other animals. Where could humans come from then? Evolution.
Now some arguments for creation: We could trace (or make guesses on) which animals evolved from which and where would it get us? Back to the beginning of life. What explains the beginning of life? How does science explain that? It doesn’t yet. We have not gotten so far as to explain how it BEGAN and that is where creation comes in. Science does not yet prove how the universe began. Science can claim that there was a “big bang” and everything formed from the matter in this one tiny object that was smaller than a pin head. But where did that pin head come from?
I think that there was creation and then beings evolved from there. Evolved either by chance or perhaps that was some diety’s plan. What ever happened, we are here and there is no pure proof for either situation to have happened, so I think it is a mixture of both.
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CreationVoted for by Addai.
Creation, to me, is the only thing that makes sense. I mean if Apes or monkeys or w/e evolved back then, why arent they evolving now??? I just dont get it…and even if Evolution existed, everything would lead back up to creation….everything had to come from somewhere….so i believe in Creation not Evolution!
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Evolution and the Big Bang as I see themVoted for by princessarya.
There’s this extremely dense cosmic egg, about the size of the ones you decorate with for Easter. It goes “Ka-Blam!” Somehow, everything winds up in the right place. And then there’s some DNA floating in some water, and lightning strikes it and eventually it becomes amino acids and lightning keeps striking until it becomes primordial ooze. Somehow it forms monkeys, which eventually become human, and that’s how we got here. Now, who wants to tell me where the holes are?
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BothVoted for by Picar.
I believe we were crrated by God or whatever…..but no body can say we have not evolved in some way
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The Only Logical ChoiceVoted for by keyman7.
There is but one logical choice when debating creationism vs. evolutionism. If one goes to the trouble of studying the most simple organisms, one will note a common trend in their make up; the trend of irreducible complexity. Some of the simplest appendages found on cells (such as flagella) are fairly complex in their make up. But they are more than complex, they are irredicibly complex. Quite simply, if they are lacking in any one part of their make up, they cannot work. Assuming each individual part evolved, it would not match with darwinian theory that these species would survive. That is, unless there were some force to guide and lead the evolution to occur. But even there, it goes back to creationism. There is far more to think about, but quite frankly, any unbiased scientist who looks at biology and chemistry for what it is will find that evolution as stated by modern scholars and Darwin, is impossible.
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not physicalVoted for by princessarya.
ok, i believe that while things may not evolve physically, societies can evolve, morals can evolve, clothes and technology can evolve. look how america has changed in the 20th century. in 1900, women still wore floor-length dresses with corsets and couldn’t work. today, if you tell a woman she can’t work, she hollers “discrimination!” maybe we didn’t come from monkeys or ooze or whatever, but we have come a long way morally and technologically. have a great storm cloud!
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duhhhhhhhVoted for by footballfan385.
Intelligent design!!! Ever heard of it!!!! Jeeze! alright now, just so that you know, this may provide some insisght into this little debate thing: Galileo Galilei believed that by studying mathematics he was experiencing God's mind. Think about that. He was right. God did not simply just go poof you're there! Ha ha! I am magic! No, he used logical science and thus created a perfect world, or at least it was until some idiots had to mess it up (cough adam and eve suck cough) you can decide how well that works over the internet for yourself
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Intelligent Design is just Sugar-Coated BullshitVoted for by ExpensiveThinker.
Recently, it seems like every half-educated nitwit thinks they have a right to decide whether or not "the theory" of evolution should be taught in public schools. Some of these cretins even went so far to suggest that schools teach "intelligent design" in science class.
Listen, these are the same assholes who told us that the earth was flat AND in the center of the galaxy!
More people in the US believe in angels than in evolution; majority opinion doesn't make something true (or right). Oh yeah, and next time you hear someone say that evolution is "only a theory", tell them to jump out the window and test gravity... it's also "only" a theory.
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Hmm...Voted for by Dead Kennedy Rolls.
My first post on here, so bear w/ me…. I think that things can evolve…. just way WAY slower than what Darwin imagined. I believe in God, too, and thus believe in Creationism. God told Eve that she would have extreme pain in childbirth, and if we evolve so quiclkly, how come there’s just a tiny space for a 7 (or so) pound baby to come out of?
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Lots more than fossils....
If you think all there is to the evidence for common descent via evolutionary change is "some fossils" then you really don't know what you are talking about.Both evolution and the holocaust are historical events in the past, for which we have lots and lots of converging evidence. Those that seek to deny these events use the same sort of faulty logic and bad arguments. That's why the holocaust skeptics and creationists are similar: their tactics are similar.
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