In most of the parts of the society and in the world at large, male or husband is thought to be the dominant and wife submissive. But, the main thing is this that should wives be dominated by husbands or wife should be dominant???
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Love, Peace, Chicken Grease9% Voted for by AnnaK, Dienush.
Okay. I'm going to tell you a story, well not a story but it has some sort of relevance to what I was thinking. So just read and prepared to be..Amazed. Or something of the like.
I met a woman the other day, more like a hippie actually. She wore like flourecent colors and kept saying cut class, not frogs. See the hippiness? Right? Right. Anyways. I was on 40th street at the time, walking to a gathering (I say gathering, because unlike a party, there wasn't bound to be many people. Maybe four or so)for some filming. So here I am, walking. There she is, preaching. I stop to listen and ask her a question, "If you were in a black and white film right now, would your guitar be black or white?"She told me, "Well, I don't care. If it's black/grey, I'll know it is that way because it is. If it's white/smoky grey, I'll know it is that way because it couldn't be the other." And I thought about that for a bit as she continued to sing, talk, and yell to the crowd. I thought, "Why would she say something like that? Is she trying to make a difference with her wotds? Hm. I'll ask." I ask, and I get into an in depth conversation with her on why she does what she does. I'm talking to someone I don't know about their life and actions. Hm. She told me, "I love what I stand for." Okay, makes sense. I told her; "Are you sure? Do you even know what you're doing in the sense of right and wrong? Or are you just trying to impress the world?" I gather she took offence from this because she told me, "You know, you have a mouth. That's okay, because when someone talks harshly towards you, you should just talk worse back but be nice about it. Like love." Now, that really didn't make sense. But she's a hippie so I figured not to frown upon it.
Five minutes into the conversation I say, "Look chica, I really have to go. But I'm not brushing you off. Maybe one day there will be an instant where I realize I need to talk to someone about life, or maybe frogs. And out of no where, you might happen to show up." (Which could be plausable, all things considered.) She just told me, "You're right actually. We're probably going to end up being good friends and smoke weed all day together. The law is for floosies." And of course I retort, "you're right. And just like with love, when it comes to smoking dro, in the end it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong."
So. The moral of the story is: It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, so long as you do it because that's the way it's supposed to be.
I guess I should expand on that. What I mean is, there is no right and wrong way to look logically at certain things. When you think about smoking illicit drugs you do it because it's fun, but it doesn't make it wrong. When you think of the dominance of man and woman, there is no wrong or right decision. A man can be above a woman, or vice versa. In the end, it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong.
But I guess we're not talking aobut right or wrong, are we? I suppose we're trying to figure which is better at being more controlling; the penis or the vagina. Look at it this way: i it were wrong for a man to be above a woman then how can it be right for a woman to be above a man in society? you can't just pick and choose between the two. If a man is dominant to woman then he is. If a woman is dominant to man then she is. Because, in the end...It doesn't matter.
Love Until Later,
AnnaK
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uh.. NO!Voted for by LostWithoutYou14.
duh why should men rule over women? what is the point. in a relationship both partners should be EQUAL! no one should be in complete control. women have the right to hold a job, not just take care of the house and children.
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rightVoted for by asymmetry.
wife must be submissive, always willing to clean, cook, and be tied down when ever the hubby wants to do so.
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No equalityVoted for by Mujtaba H Zaidi.
Before marriage marriage, I was the torch-bearer of equality, but as soon as I got marriage, I feel that man's opinion and decision should be decisive...
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Who wears the pants?Voted for by Deacon Kane.
The problem with this topic is it begs the questions if the man shouldn't be in charge who should. Because let's be real in every family someone wears the pants, even if no one admits it. So if women don't want to be dominated they should avoid relationships entirely.
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NO WAY!!! READ the BIBLE, please.Voted for by phantom of music.
To the previous post made by MillyPhilly....heck no. Read in the context,(I believe it was St. Paul who said the passage that you are referring to), this was in an area of negative marital relationships. Women were told by said evangelist to submit because women had no power at that time, and would be shunned from society and possibly executed if found to be insubordinate to her husband. Women were merely instructed as such so as to retain their integrity and welfare as intact. The gross majority of theologans would most unquestionably agree with this, when the historical aspect is called upon to reveal the truth behind the words. As to everyone else who says that men should be dominant..no way. Absolutely unequivocally not. To have a successful marriage, one must remain in equality with their mate. And to whoever posted that quote about the two women....props. That about says it all!
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Well...Voted for by Dienush.
If a couple marries, it is assumed that they have already agreed to each other's pleasures and whatever turns them on. I, for one, am for equality, but some people are dominators and some are submissive, and i think whatever the couple likes is the best choice as well as they love and respect each other...
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can't think of a titleVoted for by allaboutpoetry.
i don't think that the husband to dominate the women.i think that the women to should be more dominate then the man because if you think about it.who makes the family for the most part.and just because a man useally is more phisically strong then a women does't mean that the women shpuld do what the man says.women had to work a lot harder to get respect then any man did.
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Peary and Mrs. produce baby in high arcticVoted for by GaryCGibson.
'Domination' is a difficult word, then again the generic use of husband and wide seems a bit impersonal. Each might leave one wondering, if a sort of Dear Abby trait existed, of what exactly the author meant.
Robert Peary the Arctic explorer to his wife along to Northern Greenland once, another time she had a baby up that way. Peary ted everyone else as best he could, yet hios wife was rather assertive herself, and some people quit exploring because they didn't like her bossyness. It takes all kinds perhaps. -
Equal. were not in the 1800's anymoreVoted for by LostWithoutYou14.
Women should never be dominated by men. Everyone should be treated EQUAL!!! Women should not feel dependant on a male for everything, she should know how to get a job and money and be able to live on her own. In a relationship everything should be 50/50 with compromise and each partner should be able to comtribute when needed. We are not living in the 1800's anymore, there are no female or male traditional roles. Women can hold down a job and own insurance, participate in sports and get an eduation just like any male. And nobody should ever tell a girl that she can't do something because of her gender. Everyone should have the right to be able to do everything as equals no matter what your gender!
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WHO HAS THE BABIES???Voted for by Kokaze.
Come ON, people, THINK. Did any of you bring your brain this morning? Okay, seriously, I don't care what the bible says. Women are the ones who carry on the next generation. Women are usually less clouded by sexual feelings. Women can do almost everything a man can, and more besides.
This is rediculous. If anyone should dominate, which, by the way, I don't think should happen anyway, shouldn't it be the gender that actually does something for the race?
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Hmm...If you think about it, our species cannot survive without the opposite sex.Voted for by intangableenigma.
One cannot dominate over another, for both are needed equally to multiply.
But I should talk all about reproduction.
I believe, and always have, that everyone was made the same, but others just have gotten so egotistical that they feel like they need to domitate.
Superiotity complexes, for example.
Most men, Ive come to conclude, have very big egos -its in their nature- and this tends to be their downfall.
Women, on the other hand, have mostly a inferiority complex; thinking lowly of themselves.
The egotistical men seem to subconsiously know which women feel lowly of themselves, and put pressure on them just to feel powerful.
Ive had expirience with this.
The 'superior' prey on the 'inferior' to feel better than them and more powerful than them.
But, i digress, men shouldnt dominate, nor should women.
Because then we'd be giving in to our egotistical behavior.
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bible=not a good foundation for philosophical questions or anything1 Corinthians 11:3-10 - "3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head,a since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head."Voted for by IiYiIiIzage.
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Depends, lolI'm all for equal rights in relationships, but always remember that erotic play can be introduced by being submissive or dominative.Voted for by Oral Fixation.
Woooot! <--Submissive -
MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP IS ABOUT ROLES NOT EQUALITYIn child bearing, man contributes only 3 seconds while the woman contributes 9 months and yet the family name is the husband's last name. These disparities show that the equality is just a talk, and is not true of what obtains in a relationship.Voted for by likewhatitis100.
The reality on the ground tells us equality in a relationship is not feasible. This is also true for superiority.
Therefore, the best way to see a relationship is in terms of roles. There are two major roles in a relationship. Out of two roles of child bearing, and family head, the God given role of a woman is child bearing. This leaves the role of family head, to the man since woman cannot take all the roles.
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MARRIAGE IS THE LEGAL UNION OF MARITAL ROLESMarriage is the legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.Voted for by likewhatitis100.
Husband and wife are marital roles.
So, its the legal union of marital roles of husband and wife that constitute marriage.
Therefore, marriage is about roles not equality. -
NoNoone should dominate anyone else. We are all of equal value, dominating someone else, means you are superior. There is no person worth more, or less than anyone else.Voted for by Weydon.
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Treat me like a KING and I'll treat you like a QUEENYou cannot have two kings in the same castle. This is the problem with many marriage today. The woman wants not to be equals under the king/queen roles but rather wants to be king. You cannot have a king/king situation in a castle. That scenario requires two SEPERATE castles.Voted for by Brew Kline.
Even in that king/queen scenerio, though, one must be the ruler, be it king or queen. One must be accountable to answer for the castle. Today, the women's feminist movement has created monster women. They have created women who want to overthrow the king. Yes, in the past some men dominated their women by physical domination. They weren't philosopher kings, they were tyrant husbands. The whole point today is to empower women but not for them to dominate their own femininity by becoming overly masculine.
The thrown awaits. -
Aristotle...The big A's comments in this area are quite interesting. Aristotle gives the husband-wife relationship as a microsmic example of what he calls democratic free rule - free rule because the ruler makes decisions on behalf of the ruled, rather than for his own personal gain, and democratic because it is rule of equal over equal and each party supposedly has a stake in each decision. He then becomes somewhat inconsistent, taking the old line that the woman should submit to her husband and trust him to rule over her for her benefit. But doesn't this somewhat detract from his description of democratic rule? Now, Aristotle was an incredibly clever bloke, far cleverer than any of us - so why this glaring inconsistency? Well, perhaps because ultimately he was a product of his society: male domination was not a controversial issue in Athens at the time and so it didn't need any complicated and well-planned justification - after all, it was not under attack - so this might explain why the defence is so flimsy, and of course Aristotle saw no need to rebel because that institution worked in his favour. If we take his definition of marriage (i.e., democratic free rule) at face value and reject his later comments (the husband should lord it over the wife) as inconsistent, then we have a model for 'marriage' that personally I think is pretty reasonable.Voted for by Lost Identity.
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